[SH] NL10 bvb, A5o

This is mostly the read play without reads is very badly played ... with reads it's played well.

I think I would fire T tho after his check, I would go for dead money I could get. Almost any card on the R is though. Any 6, 8, J give him possible straight (SB range is huge), K, Q can be in his range too. only pairing cards could be good, and cards below 5.

Hello,

I think this is a very interesting hand, but I think you kind of missplayed it.

Preflop I think calling A-rag against this kind of guy is kind of close and I do prefer 3betting or folding.
Anyways, if you think you can outplay villain postflop I don't mind it, but keep in mind that those hands can lead us loosing a lot of money, while winning just a bunch of small pots.

So flop isn't really great here for sure and his check is suspicious.
Betting is a mistake here for me because:
- we have showdown value
- we don't want to get check/raised
- we can't really take value from a lot of worse hands and also the majority of the turn cards will be bad
- also - he played strong hands passively against us
Regarding these reasons I prefer checking back and reevaluating the turn.
As played, I'd really not call his raise here. He might have everything - from Q3 (as in the case) to the nuts, and considering the fact that the majority of the turn cards will be bad for us and we will have to play the guessing games.
What if he bet this turn? What will you have done?

So checking turn is good here. No need to bet because we don't really want to make the pot big, and also want to get to SD as cheap as possible.

The river is the absolute blank here but I'd prefer folding here. His line is so weird, but then I don't really think we are good often enough to justify a call.
If the river was J,Q,K or diamond I'm folding, and of course if it was an ace I'm calling.

So overall - we don't really need to make plays like this on these stakes and rather just keep the ABC style.
Also - as I said before - keep in mind that those hands can lead us loosing a lot of money, while winning just a bunch of small pots.

Do you have anything to add or ask?

Best,
Plamen

Basically we are an advocate of ABC on nl10 which is fine. Will prolly work if I 24 table nl10 and play 12/10.

BUT ... I am playing only 4 tables w normal speed (not fast). Just so I can get good quality reads on opponents, and think really in depth about their plays.

In those 40 or so begining hands I think I saw his overall tendencies pretty much. And acted according to it, which didn't result in an ABC play.

-Am I overvaluing those notes/reads and imagining things and after all just got lucky?

P.S; I am not new to poker, I am way past ABC (or maybe I am imagining it afterall and I suck hard )

Hi Gregor!

I have to say that I pretty much agree with what kymupa said regarding the hand. btw next time don't put the results (even in spoiler as everyone is curious ) as it doesn't add anything and only leads to biased analysis.

I think your hand and reads is interesting, that's why I felt like posting.

Couple of points that I think are important regarding reads:

When you see someone doing something you take a note and act accordingly. But then remember that because someone did something once doesn't mean that he will only play this way (especially at micros where ppl are a bit more random). What I am saying is that you shouldn't over rate your single reads.

For example if someone stacked off with total air once you shouldn't stack off with bottom pair the next time but instead open up a bit you stacking off range (to TP no kicker or whatever) until you get to see that he really is a maniac in which case you can open up again your stacking off range.

So here you are putting a lot of money into the pot with a super marginal hand and I think you shouldn't with the single read you have. Think about your overall range on that flop. You can take your line with so much stronger hands than bottom pair.

btw why did you bet that flop if you know he slowplays his monsters?

hope that helps

You bet/call because you felt he was raising light on the Flop. But if he raises light on the flop, you shouldn't bet the Flop. Checking is better.

I don't really know about River call. You should note that some straight draws might have gotten there on the Turn. He could have checked turn for potcontrol with TX and then bet the River. so go with your read and call if u think he has a ton of air, and if not fold cos the Ten on the turn is good for him.

Good, a fundamental mistake was on flop, thanks for pointing it out Galvin.

I do agree with dublimax and what he is trying to say, and that is that a lot of times their actions will be more or less random and change from hand to hand. And yes, weak holding as in my case is just too weak unf.

On the last note I would just like to say I am thrilled with "new way" of hand evals and I will deffo post more interesting hands in the future because of that. Keep up the good work!