Awful plays from Pokerstars' SNG regs

hey savage, is this suppose to be a blog entry?

Hey Ingrid. No, it's just gonna be me exposing really bad plays by other players.

♦ geez, ok be nice though. May I move this to small talk please?

I promise not to swear. If you think that it's more appropriate category then go ahead.

Thank you I've moved it now.

Poker Stars $13.89+$1.11 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 2021842
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG+2): t1545 30.90 BBs
jesko1986 (MP1): t1475 29.50 BBs
Corkeye (MP2): t1470 29.40 BBs
HerekPL (CO): t1675 33.50 BBs
JarppeK (BTN): t1720 34.40 BBs
Hanggy (SB): t1650 33 BBs
taniaftw (BB): t1500 30 BBs
Flobse (UTG): t1275 25.50 BBs
Romeo1402 (UTG+1): t1190 23.80 BBs

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is UTG+2 with Q A
2 folds, Hero raises to t125, 5 folds, taniaftw calls t75

Flop: (t275) J 5 9 (2 players)
taniaftw checks, Hero bets t150, taniaftw calls t150

Turn: (t575) Q (2 players)
taniaftw bets t300, Hero raises to t1270 all in, taniaftw calls t925 all in

River: (t3025) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: t3025
Hero shows Q A (a pair of Queens)
taniaftw shows 8 8 (a pair of Eights)
Hero wins t3025

H1. Definitely one for your notes.

I wouldn't post too many of these, though. You're actually giving quite a lot of info to all the fellow regs in yours and his games. Now they know to avoid shoving wide into this guy b/c he makes spewy calls on the bubble. You're potientially handing this guy free walks in future games against regs who see this hand. Since his call is bad (losing him and you $ in this spot, when you have to flip with him for your T life) if he should happen to search his name and see this, he might improve...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 30 Tournament, 150/300 Blinds 25 Ante (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Socir89 (t2310)
Button (t2466)
SB (t897)
BB (t327)
Hero (UTG) (t7500)

Hero's M: 13.04

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7, A
Hero bets t7475 (All-In), Socir89 calls t2285 (All-In), 2 folds, BB calls t2 (All-In)

Flop: (t5147) 6, 3, 3 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Turn: (t5147) A (3 players, 3 all-in)

River: (t5147) 4 (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: t5147

He had A8s - its over -5 EqDiff% if i push nash and over -3 if i push atc.

Poker Stars $13.89+$1.11 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 8 players - View hand 2021850
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

butterfrog72 (UTG+1): t1830 61 BBs
justnoob123 (MP1): t1440 48 BBs
elpaluch23 (MP2): t1305 43.50 BBs
Hero (CO): t1470 49 BBs
cassio47 (BTN): t1455 48.50 BBs
taniaftw (SB): t1440 48 BBs
steambull (BB): t3060 102 BBs
Duuglas (UTG): t1500 50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is CO with A Q
4 folds, Hero raises to t75, 1 fold, taniaftw calls t60, 1 fold

Flop: (t180) Q 4 4 (2 players)
taniaftw checks, Hero bets t90, taniaftw raises to t240, Hero calls t150

Turn: (t660) 4 (2 players)
taniaftw bets t1125 all in, Hero calls t1125

River: (t2910) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t2910
Hero shows A Q (a full house, Fours full of Queens)
taniaftw shows T T (a full house, Fours full of Tens)
Hero wins t2910

Did you also tell tales at school?

Originally posted by Tim64
H1. Definitely one for your notes.

I wouldn't post too many of these, though. You're actually giving quite a lot of info to all the fellow regs in yours and his games. Now they know to avoid shoving wide into this guy b/c he makes spewy calls on the bubble. You're potientially handing this guy free walks in future games against regs who see this hand. Since his call is bad (losing him and you $ in this spot, when you have to flip with him for your T life) if he should happen to search his name and see this, he might improve...

I guess you're right. I don't normally make a habit of educating the fish, but I guess I shouldn't publicly flame bad regs either. What's worse, they might turn to you for some coaching and you'd be pointing these same spots, but charging them for it ♦

Just leave nicks out from future posts. I think these sort of posts are not good etiquette toward any fellow player. Maybe just my opinion.

what is wrong with posting these hands? If it was a $1.50 people would be saying keep playing and eventually you will win money etc etc.

Why should $15/$30 players be treated any different?

PokerStars - $11.28+$2.82+$0.90|300/600 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com
BB is a loose fishy reg

Hero (BTN): 1,535.00
SB: 6,940.00
BB: 5,025.00

Hero posts ante 50.00, SB posts ante 50.00, BB posts ante 50.00, SB posts SB 300.00, BB posts BB 600.00

Pre Flop: (pot: 1050.00) Hero has 5d 9c

fold, SB raises to 6,890.00 and is all-in, BB calls 4,375.00 and is all-in

Flop: (10100.00, 2 players) Th Qd Qc

Turn: (10100.00, 2 players) 9s

River: (10100.00, 2 players) Ah

SB shows Kd Ad (Two Pair, Aces and Queens) (Pre 64%, Flop 86%, Turn 77%)
BB shows Js 3s (One Pair, Queens) (Pre 36%, Flop 14%, Turn 23%)
SB wins 10,100.00

Originally posted by dogma18
what is wrong with posting these hands? If it was a $1.50 people would be saying keep playing and eventually you will win money etc etc.

Why should $15/$30 players be treated any different?

Because we dont want them to improve?

Originally posted by ghaleon
Just leave nicks out from future posts. I think these sort of posts are not good etiquette toward any fellow player. Maybe just my opinion.

I agree

Also why would you want to tell everyone else? Sure post the hand but these are the players you want all to yourself!

Agree 100% re the bad etiquette in using screen names when posting a hand (don't think the poster intended any malice btw and in reply to him/her, no, nothing wrong with posting hands, just the use of the screen name was being objected to, the hands were good). I wouldn't like it if it was me being exposed playing poorly.

However, does it not follow then that Coaches shouldn't post instructional videos on the site where live play is involved without first editing names out? How many hundreds of "fish" "bad regs" etc are having their nicks and poor plays exposed every week here via this medium? Even when done using a hand re player I rarely see videos where players names are edited out to read "Seat 1, Seat 2.....etc or even being blurred prior to posting.

How about live training tonight...will hands not be discussed with names of villains displayed on screen for all to see? What do you think?

Originally posted by feursturm
Agree 100% re the bad etiquette in using screen names when posting a hand (don't think the poster intended any malice btw and in reply to him/her, no, nothing wrong with posting hands, just the use of the screen name was being objected to, the hands were good). I wouldn't like it if it was me being exposed playing poorly.

However, does it not follow then that Coaches shouldn't post instructional videos on the site where live play is involved without first editing names out? How many hundreds of "fish" "bad regs" etc are having their nicks and poor plays exposed every week here via this medium? Even when done using a hand re player I rarely see videos where players names are edited out to read "Seat 1, Seat 2.....etc or even being blurred prior to posting.

How about live training tonight...will hands not be discussed with names of villains displayed on screen for all to see? What do you think?

I guess I was a little bit malicious, however the point of the thread was just to have a bit of fun more than anything. You do make an interesting point though. But would you say that quoting somebody saying something stupid and then revealing their identity is bad etiquette too?

Originally posted by feursturm
Agree 100% re the bad etiquette in using screen names when posting a hand (don't think the poster intended any malice btw and in reply to him/her, no, nothing wrong with posting hands, just the use of the screen name was being objected to, the hands were good). I wouldn't like it if it was me being exposed playing poorly.

However, does it not follow then that Coaches shouldn't post instructional videos on the site where live play is involved without first editing names out? How many hundreds of "fish" "bad regs" etc are having their nicks and poor plays exposed every week here via this medium? Even when done using a hand re player I rarely see videos where players names are edited out to read "Seat 1, Seat 2.....etc or even being blurred prior to posting.

How about live training tonight...will hands not be discussed with names of villains displayed on screen for all to see? What do you think?

I see where you are coming from but i think there is a fine line somewhere. Here is my opinion anyway. There is a difference. Someone posting hands saying "omg look at this fkn fish he playz 82 coz its sooted" (im not talking about OP by the way im just speaking in general) posting 5/6 hands of a really bad player or like in this instance some bad regs, is a lot worse than in a coaching or a vid where the coach would say something like "ok in this spot we can play x y and z hands because we have seen him make bad plays already" It very rarely gets to a stage of berating an opponent. Also as said in here coaches won't want to say too much about specific players in vids because they use those reads to make money.

So whilst it's essentially the same thing the way its done makes it a lot more acceptable in my opinion anyway