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30$ 6max QJo

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

CO stats are 36/22 30 hands. Had him in several table, but no reads really. Decided to go for semi-bluff, because of his sizing. Other option would be to call turn and mostly give up unimproved. Maybe bluff river as we can easily rep flush.

Anyway his line looks like weakish made hand or draw. But when he bets river again very small I think flush is very unlikely.

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NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,480)
BB ($1,260)
UTG ($1,500)
UTG+1 ($1,780)
CO ($1,520)
Hero ($1,460)

Dealt to Hero J♣ Q♠

fold, fold, CO raises to $40, Hero calls $40, fold, BB calls $20

FLOP ($130) T♦ 8♣ K♦

BB checks, CO bets $60, Hero calls $60, BB folds

TURN ($250) T♦ 8♣ K♦ 5♠

CO bets $60, Hero raises to $200, CO calls $140

RIVER ($650) T♦ 8♣ K♦ 5♠ 3♦

CO bets $60, Hero raises to $460,


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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009

im folding pre, but im still not super confident post so thats why i rather avoid spots like this.
As played it all makes sense to me, youre telling an almost entirely believable story (if you river a flush than what were you flatting the flop and raising the turn with? ) and i get it, but can we assume that a random unknown will get it? i try not to pull off bluffs like that against unknowns, but on the other hand i think we all agree that such small bets mean weakness more often than not so maybe theres a big chance for it to work in this particualr spot.

another thing is the sizing on the turn, i think you should go for a bigger raise if you want to push an unknown of a hand, here he gets better than 3:1 on a call.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Pre is fine imo. Though very bottom of my offsuit range. I dont mind him to stay in pot in turn that much as my plan is to barrel river. I would actually take same line also with KJ/KQ for value. Bit smaller river raise though.

This might have been bit spewy. Usually I take more passive line when offered such good pot odds.


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pre is pretty spewy imo. i much prefer 3bet bluffing a multi-tabling unknown with this hand to flatting. QJs is much better for a flat. QJo is pretty garbage hand here IMO.

your line is fine, but your sizings are too small. fish wont fold for small bets to this line, only way to make them fold is to be all-in on the river, if you want to bluff a station you have to bluff big or not bluff at all. these sizings work better against thinking players because they can see it looks more like a value raise, but a fish is just thinking about how much it costs him to call, it is cheap so he calls.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Well button + minraise from co + decent connected hand does not seem too horrible to me. With deepish stacks. Would fold or 3bet versus e.g. 3bb open raise. What sort of range would you prefer to call?


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im not saying never flat, im just saying i dont flat this hand. playability is really poor. his PFR isnt even that high, he is probably raising CO with a standard steal range of approx 25%. QJo is well behind that range.

vs a 3bb raise im snap folding even quicker, because a 3x usually means a stronger hand that a fish wants to 'protect'.

if you think he is a really weak spot i would prefer to flat a suited broadway or suited connector. against someone who's PFR was closer to 40% this becomes a much better flat IMO


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