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AceSteph
Joined: 31.03.2010

No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t400.00/t800.00 Blinds - 9 players

BTN: t63532.00 79.42 BBs
SB: t40275.00 50.34 BBs
BB: t45096.00 56.37 BBs
UTG: t55238.00 69.05 BBs
UTG+1: t20848.00 26.06 BBs
Hero (UTG+2): t55877.00 69.85 BBs
MP1: t51225.00 64.03 BBs
MP2: t79299.00 99.12 BBs
CO: t89854.00 112.32 BBs

Pre Flop: (t1200) Hero is UTG+2 with J :diamond: J :heart:
UTG calls t800, 1 fold, Hero raises to t2789, 3 folds, BTN calls t2789, SB calls t2389, 1 fold, UTG calls t1989

Flop: (t11956) 9 :diamond: 2 :heart: 7 :spade: (4 players)
SB checks, UTG bets t12856.00, Hero folds

"Fast" poker, no HUD. Is it OK to fold here? What do you play?


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DasWodka
Joined: 25.11.2009

i personally isoraise a little smaller but i have no experience in fast poker.
His play just never makes sense so its very difficult to guess what he could have. For me it would be to expencive on this dry flop and so i like the fold


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Pr0teus
Joined: 09.12.2010

hi there, im also clueless at fastpoker or rushpoker, but then again...

imo the raise looks fine, and JJ on that board still is very strong hand... i was never folding to that bet (blaim me for beeing a call station ;) ), call / raise, or call /call to see oponent reaction.


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Good fold readless. 4-ways here I'd expect to see 97 a lot more often than a random 9. If he bet even 2/3 pot size our pot odds don't change significantly, however the chances he is betting 9x to see where he's at or something equally idiotic is much higher. With a slight overbet here his range strengthens significantly.


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Hi,

I would never fold there. Bad players are shoving more often9x or air than have some set or two pair (especially on dry board).
Call should be fine, since you´re deep against other players.


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Unfortunately it's not a shove, he reached the already bloated flop pot with still 4x PSB behind.


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AceSteph
Joined: 31.03.2010

Yes basically SB is the shortest with 50bb, so we are a little deep. Another problem, if I call and anyone moves allin I have to fold. If I call and pushes the turn I'm also in a terrible shape. First it was quite hard choice, but after I think this over again I cannot really imagine him limp/calling in UTG and then playing potbet/broke 4way with anything worse than JJ (only TT)...

If anyone interested in the results:

Spoiler

UTG: KK (pushed on turn)
BTN: called flop and called the allin on turn with 77


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

if he pushes turn you can safely fold actually, it's one of the advantages of calling flop: it's pretty easy to play turns.


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