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When to fold KJ on AKx?

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Hey guys,

Can we fold for those odds? We almost get direct odds for hitting 2pair or better

Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t40.00/t80.00 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 2075318
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BB: t5572.00 69.65 BBs - VPIP: 39, PFR: 22, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 41
UTG: t1865.00 23.31 BBs - VPIP: 50, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.3, Hands: 16
UTG+1: t6437.00 80.46 BBs - VPIP: 90, PFR: 2, 3B: 5, AF: 1.4, Hands: 41
UTG+2: t2520.00 31.50 BBs - VPIP: 8, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 38
Hero (MP1): t3880.00 48.50 BBs - VPIP: 17, PFR: 14, 3B: 6, AF: 3.8, Hands: 51597
MP2: t4320.00 54 BBs - VPIP: 35, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 3.0, Hands: 40
CO: t2165.00 27.06 BBs - VPIP: 19, PFR: 11, 3B: 0, AF: 2.0, Hands: 27
BTN: t3665.00 45.81 BBs - VPIP: 17, PFR: 10, 3B: 0, AF: 3.5, Hands: 41
SB: t9540.00 119.25 BBs - VPIP: 65, PFR: 10, 3B: 8, AF: 0.9, Hands: 40

Pre Flop: (t120) Hero is MP1 with J :diamond: K :club:
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t80, 1 fold, Hero raises to t244, 3 folds, SB calls t204, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t164

Flop: (t812) 7 :club: A :diamond: K :spade: (3 players)
SB bets t240.00, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls t240

Turn: (t1292) T :spade: (2 players)
SB bets t400.00, Hero calls t400

River: (t2092) 9 :spade: (2 players)
SB bets t400.00, Hero folds


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flexifronto
Joined: 07.02.2010

Hi Farmarchist.

I don't like the fold at all. Imo, you have 2 ways of playing this:

a) You fold in the turn since his second barrel shows somehow a bit of strenght and we are probably behind.

b) You call the river.

What you can't do is to call the turn to end up folding the river, cause then we are giving away chips. What I mean is, by folding the river, why do you call the turn, to get another K or a J? It makes no sense. Also his bet on the river is not so strong so for me it's snap call.

cheers.


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I was pretty sure he had me on the turn so my question is: Can we call the turn to outdraw him?


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Originally posted by flexifronto
. What I mean is, by folding the river, why do you call the turn, to get another K or a J?
cheers.

yup or a queen. I thought we got enough implieds vs fishy guy


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im raising pre slightly bigger to iso UTG+1 and folding this on turn. would like to hear how one of the hand evaluers would play it


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CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012

I could even get radical and fold on flop or turn. His AF is only 0,9, so I'd go for weak Ax what he is betting with.


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As I said I'm pretty sure I'm behind here. I just thought that if I'd hit a J or K on the river I still get more than 1K on implieds. Maybe bit less when Q falls..

Too worse implieds I guess? I mean, still too bad odds because too little outs?


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reggie123
Joined: 31.03.2009

im raising pre slightly bigger to iso UTG+1 and folding this on turn.

UTG: t1865.00 23.31 BBs - VPIP: 50, PFR: 0,
SB: t9540.00 119.25 BBs - VPIP: 65, PFR: 10
BB: t5572.00 69.65 BBs - VPIP: 39
Bigger raise gives you bigger pot against 2-3 cllstastions and KJofs is to weak for that.
3bet flop and fold to 4bet?


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Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

Hey farmarchist!

Turn is a fold for me! And i honestly don't think you're getting much implieds on this kind of board if you hit your straight...

greets,
Tiltberger


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