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PaPi92
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29.01.2013, 13:50

24/14 for 72 hands.
What do you do in this spot?

Poker Stars $15.00+$1.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 2082616
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Hero (BB): t3200 64 BBs
UTG: t2800 56 BBs
UTG+1: t1950 39 BBs
UTG+2: t5480 109.60 BBs
MP1: t2830 56.60 BBs
MP2: t2600 52 BBs
CO: t4295 85.90 BBs
BTN: t2790 55.80 BBs
SB: t4055 81.10 BBs

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with Q :club: Q :spade:
4 folds, MP2 calls t50, CO raises to t200, 2 folds, Hero raises to t525, 1 fold, CO calls t325

Flop: (t1125) 2 :heart: T :spade: A :spade: (2 players)
Hero ???


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gusma
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29.01.2013, 15:02

I would make it 600 ish pre , considering the MP2 is still in the hand and you are OOP.

OTF I fire something like 425 to keep the pot in control and avoid to play in the dark by checking it.


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onetwo78
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30.01.2013, 14:17

Originally posted by gusma
I would make it 600 ish pre , considering the MP2 is still in the hand and you are OOP.

OTF I fire something like 425 to keep the pot in control and avoid to play in the dark by checking it.

+1 and would be happy to shot the second barrel on A,♠,Q turns. I would give up on other turns.


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chenny8888
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31.01.2013, 05:50

Hi all,

I like 600 preflop too.

As for giving up... what do you mean by giving up? Bet 350-400 on the flop and check every non-Q turn card (bet on Q turn card). Check/call those turn cards and expect river to go check/check very often and us to show down the winning hand..


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03.02.2013, 11:57

What range do you give him? What hands do you think he will bet turn and check river?


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chenny8888
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06.02.2013, 16:18

Originally posted by PaPi92
What range do you give him? What hands do you think he will bet turn and check river?

Hard to define exactly but a decent chunk of pure airball, lots of Tx hands (he's a fish), gutshots, flushdraws etc. If he decides to then shove the river with them, unlucky for us.


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10.02.2013, 12:25

I don`t think his range is very wide, because the fishes are more likely to call pre flop with marginal hands instead of iso raising. So he don`t have a lot Tx in his range.


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chenny8888
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17.02.2013, 13:28

I tend to disagree here. For every fish that decides to limp behind Tx, you have 2 fish that iso-raise some more random hands. Here I don't mind limping behind low pairs in his spot, whereas I don't think any fish will do it (nor is it specifically better than raising).


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17.02.2013, 17:37

as played

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

I like 600 preflop too.

As for giving up... what do you mean by giving up? Bet 350-400 on the flop and check every non-Q turn card (bet on Q turn card). Check/call those turn cards and expect river to go check/check very often and us to show down the winning hand..

this

BUT

early hot 16,5 random player i shove TT(99)+/AK(AQs)+ like 95% of time(depending on his stats) and u will be geting in like 75%++ favorit with that range like always (most def shove JJ+/AK in this spot like alwaus)


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chenny8888
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18.02.2013, 03:21

Hi all,

Sounds bad with 64bb. I like it maybe with 300bb if you think their range is too wide (maybe with QQ+ instead of JJ+ AK though). With 64bb we can stack an even wider range by just playing poker postflop IMO.


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