16.50$ stars, AA fold too late?

Hey! How about shoving flop? If he's not a reg, he's gna be calling every Qx, and there are a bunch of draws out there, we can get value from. QQ would most likely 3bet preflop, so we only loose to 66, 88, but then it's a cooler, and really small part of his range. So I'd ship it on the flop.

Well, shoving is definately an option, it's just that this is pretty deep into the tournament, so I generally don't expect to be still check/raised by a queen at this point. I might be giving them too much credit.

Hi,

Since likely only 2 hands beat you:66/88 that may also 3-bet pre-flop, I would likely either 3-bet flop 7k and shove any turn card or call flop and call him down (likely would still shove on blank turn)
After calling turn you´re pot committed, so you may also shove turn, although keeping in his bluffs is also good, so call turn, call river is fine
Being just 25bb deep you´re not getting away aces

best regards,

Originally posted by helemaalnicks
I might be giving them too much credit.

Yes, you might :). Not regs are really stupid usually. I just played this hand not long ago, this was a 22$ tourney:

Poker Stars No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800.00/t1600.00 Blinds - 6 players - View hand 2121773
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: t3416.00 2.13 BBs
SB: t142957.00 89.35 BBs
BB: t43368.00 27.11 BBs
UTG: t23841.00 14.90 BBs
Hero (MP): t121957.00 76.22 BBs
CO: t42180.00 26.36 BBs

Pre Flop: (t2400) Hero is MP with 3 Q
3 folds, BTN raises to t3266, 2 folds (cmoooon BB...)

BB looked like an okay player. Trust me, they stupid enough to raise with Qx, since this deepn they might wanna get it in, cause they put you on a draw, or don't put you anything on, they just have top pair.

Ya, I think you guys are right, I was possibly to arrogant yesterday, maybe because I was running like poop, while running hot the week up to yesterday, so maybe pay some extra attention to that.

This guy had 8's, and after 60 more hands or so against him, it was pretty obvious, it's a good think I marked the hand, because this is the type of hand that can subconsciously change you into someone who levels himself regularly.

Thanks guys.

Hi all,

Vs an assumed reg I think both call flop to let him valuetown himself and 3bet flop are reasonable plays. I generally don't 3bet much vs check/raises, but this is one of the wetter boards.

Turn I'd fold also. If he defended from BB then we have an easy calldown even on this turn card, but vs SB defend he has almost no JTs, J9s, T9s, etc combinations.

BTW folding this board in general isn't good. Even though you give him credit, he really shouldn't defend 66 preflop in this spot. So the only hand that a reg beats you with here is 88.

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

Vs an assumed reg I think both call flop to let him valuetown himself and 3bet flop are reasonable plays. I generally don't 3bet much vs check/raises, but this is one of the wetter boards.

Turn I'd fold also. If he defended from BB then we have an easy calldown even on this turn card, but vs SB defend he has almost no JTs, J9s, T9s, etc combinations.

BTW folding this board in general isn't good. Even though you give him credit, he really shouldn't defend 66 preflop in this spot. So the only hand that a reg beats you with here is 88.

He's not an assumed reg though, he's an assumed non-reg, given that I don't have a read and have loads and loads of stats on this limit/timeframe.

Originally posted by helemaalnicks

Originally posted by chenny8888
Hi all,

Vs an assumed reg I think both call flop to let him valuetown himself and 3bet flop are reasonable plays. I generally don't 3bet much vs check/raises, but this is one of the wetter boards.

Turn I'd fold also. If he defended from BB then we have an easy calldown even on this turn card, but vs SB defend he has almost no JTs, J9s, T9s, etc combinations.

BTW folding this board in general isn't good. Even though you give him credit, he really shouldn't defend 66 preflop in this spot. So the only hand that a reg beats you with here is 88.

He's not an assumed reg though, he's an assumed non-reg, given that I don't have a read and have loads and loads of stats on this limit/timeframe.

That means he's likely to have a bunch of gutshots etc in his range, so we can call flop or 3bet flop. I think 3betting flop probably increases its value actually because there are a TON of "playable" Qx hands.