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[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$252.00:///////;CO$56.00:125/28 /18 /1.4/34 /36 /56 /54 ;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with J♦, 9♠
MP3 folds, CO raises, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 4♦, 3♦, J♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero raises, CO calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) Q♣ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (6.25 BB) A♥ (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero folds, CO gets uncalled bet back..

Final Pot: 6.25 BB

after reviewing this hand, i really hate it.
flop is ok, turn is b/c or b/f?
and how to play river?


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_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

i equilated the river.
i give him the ps tag co openraise range

Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 77.629 % 77.397 % 0.464 % 22.139 % 44+, A2s+, K8s+, Q8s+, J8s+, T9s, 98s, A7o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo
Player 2: 22.371 % 22.139 % 0.464 % 77.397 % Jd9s

but probably i have to exclude some hands from his range that don't call the turnbet, and also the one's that raise the flop or river.


Hi henne007,

can you remove 44, AJs, AQs, K8s, (KJs as he might raise this as well on the turn), KQs, Q8s-QJs, A7o-A9o, (KJo), KQo, QTo, QJo as I don't have Equilator here at the moment.
The result is about the irver right?

I'll answer later tonight at this hand. :)


_Anonymous_ Topic starter
_Anonymous_

Board: Ah Qc Jh 4d 3d
Dead:

Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
Player 1: 64.054 % 64.054 % 0.000 % 35.946 % 55-TT, AKs, ATs-A2s, KJs-K8s, JTs, T9s, 98s, ATo+, KTo, JTo
Player 2: 35.946 % 35.946 % 0.000 % 64.054 % Jd9s

yes it was about the river.
so for 1 bb its a call, but what is the best play then?


TerrorBlade
Joined: 16.10.2007

This is an ideal spot for a c/c for bluff induce. The flop held many draws which didn't get there on the river (except 25 oesd) and he won't call again on the river with a busted draw but might bluff it, also has the effect of avoiding a river raise if he hit the ace. I think you're ahead often enough here for a call for sure.


I haven't noticed how low his wts is. I removed a few more small pocketpairs as well as A7s and A6s (I don't know how to calculate with :diamond: suited hands only so I try it that way.)

Board: Ah Qc Jh 4d 3d
Dead:

Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
Spieler 1: 69.091 % 69.091 % 0.000 % 30.909 % 77-TT, AKs, ATs-A8s, A5s-A2s, KJs-K8s, JTs, T9s, 98s, ATo+, KTo, JTo
Spieler 2: 30.909 % 30.909 % 0.000 % 69.091 % Jd9s

Still enough to call if he bets his whole range.
Let's say that he won't bluff but valuebet us with his low pocketpairs. (in real he will bluff sometimes and check pocketpair behind and so on but that shouldn't change much in his range together as we beat a bluff and his small pocket pairs.)

His range if we check: 77-TT, AKs, ATs-A8s, A5s-A2s, KJs, JTs, ATo+, KTo, JTo.

Board: Ah Qc Jh 4d 3d
Dead:

Equity Gewonnen UnentschiedenVerloren Hand
Spieler 1: 77.419 % 77.419 % 0.000 % 22.581 % 77-TT, AKs, ATs-A8s, A5s-A2s, KJs, JTs, ATo+, KTo, JTo
Spieler 2: 22.581 % 22.581 % 0.000 % 77.419 % Jd9s

Still enough for a call as we have to call 1 BB in a 7 BB (0.25 for rake?) so around 14% equity is enough to call here.

Now the other question is: Can we even bet out ourself? The answer is after the equity above pretty easy and his low wts makes it an even easier one: No. He might now fold all pocketpairs and also might bluff us (we can't call anymore as most of his raises would be a better hand). With a check we can prevent ourselves from folding to a bluff and get some value from worse pocketpairs.
Check/fold becomes possible if he is very weak. If we for example don't think that he is able to bluff or bet his low pocketpairs our equity drops to.... 0.
(The chances that he tries to bluff us are higher than that he is betting his pocketpairs but he doesn't have to bluff a lot to make to call profitable and the A is a good card to bluff so this should be worth a try.)


Hawat
Joined: 15.02.2008

@ciRith: You can use Ad6d, Ad7d... But I think that you have to write every hand as ranges don't work.


G1lius
Joined: 27.10.2007

Originally posted by Hawat
@ciRith: You can use Ad6d, Ad7d... But I think that you have to write every hand as ranges don't work.

I usually make a suit-range with the 'suits' checkmark, then copy all the hands. Then I make my normal range, press OK, then I paste the suited hands behind the normal range hands.


Originally posted by G1lius

Originally posted by Hawat
@ciRith: You can use Ad6d, Ad7d... But I think that you have to write every hand as ranges don't work.

I usually make a suit-range with the 'suits' checkmark, then copy all the hands. Then I make my normal range, press OK, then I paste the suited hands behind the normal range hands.

Good idea. Thx for that. :)


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