[Closed] ICM and Antes

Can nobody give me any idea how to approach this issue?

From reading Harrington he seems to use the initial pot (ie - all blinds and antes before anybody has acted), as the indicator. Should I apply something similar here?

Play with ICM trainer, it has a input box for antes. Generally the ranges loosen up with the addition of antes. It doesn't make a huge amount of difference though but your on the right track; more money in the pot inititally means more chips can be won just from the blinds means we loosen up.

well...
lets say blinds are 100/200 with 25 antes.
If you want to find your MZone and your pushing range we want to add everything up that is in the pot pre-flop before any action.
so...
100+200+25x the amount of players at the table, lets just say its 8.
so it would be 100+200+25+25+25+25+25+25+25+25=400

So your calculations are correct.

There is alot of dead money in the pot pre-flop so we can raise/push with a looser range.
Not to much looser but enough to keep up with increasing blinds/antes.

Thanks for the replies guys.

I never realised there was an ICM Trainer program, I only ever saw/used the Lite version. I'll download the full version and give it a whirl.

i think, with the antes in play u have to see the total pot and whats ur M to determine if u are in the fase push or fold and apply almost the same ranges with no antes. In the ICM trainer there are optios to put the antes

my guess: push and call a bit looser