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KTs cold 4bet bluff river decision?

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noob3r
Joined: 20.11.2009

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $6,400(BB) Replayer
SB ($222,934)
Hero ($458,986)
UTG ($290,446)
UTG+1 ($351,066)
UTG+2 ($253,546)
MP1 ($190,582)
MP2 ($232,932)
CO ($134,441)
BTN ($282,021)

Dealt to Hero K♥ T♥

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $12,800, SB raises to $26,885, Hero raises to $42,555, fold, SB calls $15,670

FLOP ($105,110) J♥ 3♠ 8♣

SB checks, Hero checks

TURN ($105,110) J♥ 3♠ 8♣ 9♦

SB bets $36,885, Hero calls $36,885

RIVER ($178,880) J♥ 3♠ 8♣ 9♦ A♣

SB checks, Hero bets $145,555,

Hello,

Tbh Ive been just moved to that table and got like ~20 hands for both opponents.

My first thoughts was that the spot is pretty cool to 4bet bluff and they might give me more credit than they should because Im new to the table and they dont have any info about me.

Not sure about the sizing tho. Think its fine?

That SB guy tanked for like 30 seconds and then flatted which really got me scared.

I think if he is about to call with some hand like T9s cuz of the pot odds, he wouldnt have thought that much and would have almost snapped it.

What range do you think he have in that spot pre?

On the flop I think its standart to cbet vs unknown just to try to pick it up if he have something like AQ/AK(maybe), but I decide to check it back cuz of the backdoor outs.

The turn gives me OESD, but not sure which play is better? To move all-in, or just to flat?

I guess flatting is more balanced here cuz if he have something like AQ/AK/KQ with whom he decide to stab it and try to take it down, he might just give up the river and I could easily shove the river?

The river is pretty interesting card. He thought about 15 seconds and checked it which made me think he doesnt have AK/AQ/AJ, or something. I think he will more often shove em, then check/call without any dynamics. Not sure if thats true tho.

The other point is, that I dont have alot of Ax type hands and that ace prolly doesnt hit me that much, but I still can have any Ax with a pair from the flop/turn. Also AT/AQ(maybe). Not sure about AK and AJ tho.

Do You guys think we could make him fold something like QQ/KK in that spot putting him in tough spot given that he have to call here for his entire stack, which I think is the key because if he had something like mine stack and lets say he checks, and I bet ~60% pot, he will be more often call cuz of the stacks I guess?


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Hi,

I like your preflop play. I would prefer c-betting postflop and barreling on hearts, 9, Q, A maybe check back K and T

38k should be nice spot to start barreling.

As played: you have to call turn. I think your river bet is a little too big. If you want to get folds anything besides Ax+ then 95 or 110k would also do the job (although I afraid that he would often take c/c line his Ax as played)

best regards,


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noob3r
Joined: 20.11.2009

Hello,

With the river bet I put him allin. That was the idea. I didnt want to bet small because of his stack and to be more balanced, cuz I will shove all my value hands given his stacksize.

If he had a bigger stack I think that bet size wouldnt be good, cuz Im polarizing my range alot.

I thought I actually have more Ax type hands then he has because of the time he took to flat preflop and that I thought he is actually value betting his stroger aces like AJ+.


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that case I like it. EVen with marginal Ax hand he might fold, since you basically always have there at least AK+ or air and usually players do not like making calls that might cost them tournament life

best regards,


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

he had TT imo or set, most likely TT
if he is weak i like ur line
if he is reg/solid i think he knew u dont have Ax type of hands as played


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Preflop, turn and river: Nice hand as played. If he really has AQ then so be it.

Cbet flop though! Your backdoor outs aren't as good as you think they are here.


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