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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

I think I screwed up. Tight limpers surround me.

PokerStars - $0.05/$0.10 (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $3.07
SB: $1.81
Hero (BB): $1.81
CO: $4.16

SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q♥ J♥

CO calls $0.05, BTN calls $0.05, SB calls $0.03, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.20, 4 players) 9♦ 4♦ A♠
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.20, 4 players) T♣
SB checks, Hero bets $0.10, CO calls $0.10, fold, SB calls $0.10

River: ($0.50, 3 players) T♠
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks

Spoiler

SB shows 8♥ 7♥ (One Pair, Tens) (Pre 26%, Flop 13%, Turn 17%)
Hero shows Q♥ J♥ (One Pair, Tens) (Pre 38%, Flop 14%, Turn 17%)
CO shows K♦ 2♦ (One Pair, Tens) (Pre 36%, Flop 73%, Turn 67%)
CO wins $0.48

Preflop: Check.
Flop: I missed it. I have nothing. Check and fold.
Turn: I pick up a draw. I bet it. I might pick up the pot and I can stand a raise.
River: I missed and checked 3-ways.

My thouhgts:

Spoiler

I think I blew it on the river. Surely, nobody has an A. They might have a T, but most likely they have busted draws. I can represent a T (since I bet the first one), and they might fold better (paired) hands.

/Johan = :f_confused:


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Avataren
Joined: 28.04.2010

I would actually be inclined to raise preflop here. you have CO and BTN limpers neither seem strong. but checking is okay since you have 3 players I guess. rest is standard.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

@Avataren
Preflop: Those guys both limped with aces and were tight (like 28/5) so a preflop rasie for value only feels thin OOP. Don't think I can drive BB out.

Edit: Then again. A preflop raise might be done for value vs two players. But it is difficult to play postflop if I miss the flop out of position. These guys don't like folding once they are in.

River: I think I should have bet the river. Since both checked on the flop they are unlikely to have an A. Drawy board and I can certainly represent a T since I started firing when the first one came. King high and small pockets could fold.

/Johan = :f_confused:


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Avataren
Joined: 28.04.2010

you may be able to represent a T but would they fold ? some think that because another T came its less likely that you will have the Ten.


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Dawnfall26
Joined: 30.07.2008

Hi!

I think the way you played the hand is fine.But...

Preflop I certainly go for a raise basically for value.Sure you are OOP but QJs is one of the best hands in such spot anyway and you may also take down a few pots on the flop even when you miss(like this one)

As played I see not much reason for a flop bet in a small 4way pot.
Turn is debatable I wouldnt really mind just c/c,however betting sure is fine.
River is the thoughest and basically the reason why I dont like turnbet as much. I prolly also go for a check since your bluff has to work 1:5 which I doubt it does. If SB has a made hand he will not fold(unless CO calls,but in that case you will loose anyway) So SB needs to have a draw and CO lower than 9x(I think its reasonable). I doubt that happens more than 17% of the time. Besides you even have some small amount of SDvalue when they both have some wierd draws


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