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Hawat
Joined: 15.02.2008

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Quiz time!! (everybody likes a quiz) You have to give the complete sequence (x/x)

I find these situations really annoying, so let's see what you think. Most of them are easy but I always have a doubt.
I think that most of the turn plays are correct, but if you think checking is better in any of them let me know.

Well, not all of them are contibets as sometimes I have a made hand. In these cases, when should I just check to induce a bluff?

1) Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;BB$65.90:770/20 /11 /1.6/34 /31 /33 /72 ;MP3$25.42:476/19 /12 /1.6/44 /33 /73 /56 ;Hero$92.73:///////;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BU with 8♦, 8♥
3 folds, MP3 raises, CO folds, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, MP3 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6♣, A♥, 9♣ (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 3♦ (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 5♥ (2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero ?

2) Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;BB$50.00:522/29 /22 /2.6/37 /34 /42 /46 ;Hero$53.45:///////;[/tg]
1/2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6♥, 6♣
2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) K♦, 9♣, 8♠ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 3♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (5.25 BB) J♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero ?

3) Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$139.30:88/19 /8 /2.6/50 /14 /100 /70 ;BB$85.00:770/20 /11 /1.6/34 /31 /33 /72 ;Hero$77.75:///////;[/tg]
2/4 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BU with T♥, 9♥
7 folds, Hero raises, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) Q♥, T♣, 4♥ (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.00 BB) 3♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (6.00 BB) 2♠ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ?

4) Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$92.07:55/47 /8 /0.7/42 /11 /50 /60 ;BB$89.47:522/29 /22 /2.6/37 /34 /42 /46 ;Hero$97.47:///////;[/tg]
1/2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q♥, J♦
Hero raises, BU folds, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) 6♦, 7♥, 2♠ (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (4.00 BB) A♥ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (6.00 BB) K♦ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero ?

5) Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;BB$91.15:55/47 /8 /0.7/42 /11 /50 /60 ;Hero$119.37:///////;[/tg]
1/2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4♣, 4♥
MP3 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) Q♣, 4♠, K♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) J♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 8♣ (2 players)
BB checks, Hero ?

6) Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$47.82:522/29 /22 /2.6/37 /34 /42 /46 ;Hero$73.27:///////;[/tg]
1/2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♠, 8♦
2 folds, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls.

Flop: (6.00 SB) T♠, Q♣, 9♥ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

Turn: (4.00 BB) 6♣ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB calls.

River: (6.00 BB) 7♦ (2 players)
SB bets, Hero ?

7) Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;BB$5.52:83/50 /2 /0.3/51 /0 /67 /52 ;Hero$65.72:///////;BU$44.02:39/67 /10 /0.5/62 /13 /0 /44 ;[/tg]
1/2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with K♥, K♠
MP3 folds, Hero raises, BU calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) Q♠, J♠, Q♣ (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BU calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 3♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, BU calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 2♥ (2 players)
Hero ?

8) Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$53.40:///////;MP3$58.75:54/38 /18 /1.1/41 /17 /67 /86 ;[/tg]
1/2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♣, 7♦
MP2 folds, MP3 calls, 3 folds, Hero raises, MP3 calls.

Flop: (4.50 SB) 7♣, K♦, J♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) Q♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

River: (5.25 BB) 4♦ (2 players)
Hero ?

9) Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$59.10:496/21 /17 /3.1/28 /20 /63 /65 ;Hero$63.85:///////;MP3$39.74:39/67 /10 /0.5/62 /13 /0 /44 ;CO$3.83:15/93 /47 /3.2/58 /50 /0 /29 ;[/tg]
1/2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is BB with A♥, Q♦
MP3 calls, CO raises, BU folds, SB calls, Hero 3-bets, MP3 calls, CO caps (All-In), SB calls, Hero calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (15.32 SB) 7♣, 2♣, 3♦ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, MP3 calls, SB folds.

Turn: (8.66 BB) 4♠ (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

River: (10.66 BB) 9♠ (2 players)
Hero ?

10) Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$11.83:15/93 /47 /3.2/58 /50 /0 /29 ;Hero$70.85:///////;BU$36.59:39/67 /10 /0.5/62 /13 /0 /44 ;[/tg]
1/2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with A♦, 4♦
MP3 folds, Hero raises, BU calls, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: (7.00 SB) K♥, 3♣, 3♦ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, BU calls, SB folds.

Turn: (4.50 BB) 5♣ (2 players)
Hero bets, BU calls.

River: (6.50 BB) K♣ (2 players)
Hero ?

11) Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$69.57:///////;BU$20.08:39/67 /10 /0.5/62 /13 /0 /44 ;[/tg]
1/2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q♣, T♦
MP3 folds, Hero raises, BU calls, 2 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 6♠, J♣, 7♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, BU calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 4♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, BU calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 3♣ (2 players)
Hero ?

12) Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$63.57:///////;BB$26.03:39/67 /10 /0.5/62 /13 /0 /44 ;CO$29.36:83/50 /2 /0.3/51 /0 /67 /52 ;[/tg]
1/2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is SB with J♦, T♠
MP2 folds, CO calls, BU folds, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: (3.00 SB) Q♠, 5♠, 7♠ (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, CO folds.

Turn: (2.50 BB) Q♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (4.50 BB) 3♥ (2 players)
Hero ?

13) Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$60.40:///////;CO$51.00:54/38 /18 /1.1/41 /17 /67 /86 ;[/tg]
1/2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A♦, T♥
Hero raises, MP3 folds, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 5♦, 7♠, A♣ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 9♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 8♦ (2 players)
Hero ?

14) Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$34.65:///////;MP3$16.35:19/37 /0 /0.2/57 /0 /50 /50 ;[/tg]
1/2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.58 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K♦, J♥
Hero raises, MP3 calls, 4 folds.

Flop: (5.50 SB) J♣, 6♦, 8♦ (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 8♥ (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 4♠ (2 players)
Hero ?


5 replies
opal99
Joined: 05.02.2008

1.) it's check for me - he won't call your bet with anything but A or 9

2.) you can't bet here :) If he didn't have pair on flop = he's drawing to straight => he has at least pair on river (if not, he will fold his 76 :) )

3.) bet

4.) lol.. he won't fold any pair here, so check behind and hope

5.) b/f is ok here I think

6.) raise!

7.) bet.. he won't try to bluff you often here

8.) i'd say c/f - what do u beat?

9.) bet!

10.) i bet it again against this guy, c/c is option too..

11.) c/f

12.) c/f

13.) bet

14.) easy bet


Hi Hawat I hope you don't mind if I don't give you explaination on these hands as there are just too many of them. ;)
If you have ANY questions please ask them and I will answer them afterwards.

1) Check behind.

2) Check behind!

3) Bet/fold.

4) Bet/fold.

5) Close but I bet this as well and fold to a raise.

6) Raise/call.

7) Bet/call.

8) River af? I ttend to check/fold as you beat nothing.

9) Check/call.

10) Bet/fold.

11) Check/fold turn.

12) Check/fold.

13) Bet/call.

14) Bet/call.


opal99
Joined: 05.02.2008

yay I was close.

9. in my answers is some mistake apparently :rolleyes: / too many hands


Hawat
Joined: 15.02.2008

Thank you for the answers

As I said, some of them are really easy. That's because I simply gathered all the hands of this kind from yesterday, just to be sure. I need to find more examples with donks and raises on the river.

About the hands, I'm especially interested in those where you bet/fold. I find it a hard move to do (because I can't fold) so I tend to abuse of c/c to avoid getting raised, losing value this way. That's another reason for my WTS being >40.

5) call fold ?


5) Couldn't decide what to do. So I favored both once but missed the worse. ;) Fold is probably the best if you get raised as there aren't many worse flushs that can check/raise you here.