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QQ in BB vs utg raise

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ronekinky
Joined: 25.04.2008

Do we shove here against the nit? I just feel like these clueless nit fishes (im tilted..) always has AA or KK when they raise 3bb in EP.

PokerStars - $8+$0.80|100/200 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 2,425 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
CO: 2,901 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
BTN: 5,205 (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
SB: 7,302 (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 26.67, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (BB): 5,416
UTG: 2,273 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
UTG+1: 8,355 (VPIP: 7, PFR: 7, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 15)
UTG+2: 2,950 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
MP: 8,268 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)

9 players post ante of 25, SB posts SB 100, Hero posts BB 200

Pre Flop: (pot: 525) Hero has Q♠ Q♦

fold, UTG+1 raises to 600, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 600, fold, fold, Hero raises to 5,391 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls 4,791, fold

Flop: (11,707, 2 players) T♣ 9♦ 4♥

Turn: (11,707, 2 players) 7♣

River: (11,707, 2 players) 3♥


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Backcushion
Joined: 29.12.2007

You have 15 hands on him, how do you know he is a nit :P

I'd just 3bet 2,5/call off as standard with these stacksizes.
Shoving will make him fold stuff like AJ/AQ/66-JJ imo.


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Wohmfg
Joined: 12.11.2009

Don't shove 25bbs with QQ and I think 3betting to 2.5k loses value, 3bet 1.4k or something and never fold.

And yeah that many hands isn't a sample.

Edit: oops didn't see there was a caller after the raise! 2.5k isn't bad then, still seems a lot to me.


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Backcushion
Joined: 29.12.2007

Originally posted by Wohmfg
Don't shove 25bbs with QQ and I think 3betting to 2.5k loses value, 3bet 1.4k or something and never fold.

And yeah that many hands isn't a sample.

Edit: oops didn't see there was a caller after the raise! 2.5k isn't bad then, still seems a lot to me.

Sorry I meant 2,5x :P


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Tiltberger
Joined: 23.06.2005

Hey ronekinky!

I would bet to 1,9k (oop thats fine against 2 players, and they still call you very often, even with your stacksize)
Shove is +ev but not maxev :)

Greets,
Tiltberger


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