nl10sh QQ OOP vs a shove on flop

Hi EnterG,

Preflop: looks fine

Postflop: I think that that while small donk/3bet is a strong hand almost always a small donk/shove is also possible to be a semibluff, pair, bluff so I would not fold either.

You misread the hand Bogdan.BB donks i raise and BTN shoves.Is that make a difference ?

Thanks !

Cold 3-bet shove there seems like superstrong hand. 9x. --> FOLD

Originally posted by EnterG
You misread the hand Bogdan.BB donks i raise and BTN shoves.Is that make a difference ?

Thanks !

My apologies, I did mis read it.

If the BTN would 3-bet small I'd agree with CPallo... however, an overbet shove there is less likely to be a monster imo especially from an aggro fish so I would still be inclined to call.

I think this is a bit different spot with aggro 3-way than it would be heads-up. It's a cold jam over 2 players, who have shown strength here. Why would he bluff here with flush-draw etc. when it seems clear that at least hero is never folding? I can't see the point on it. It would be a whole different story if we were heads-up with this aggro guy, he could do that with wider range. Now I think his hand is 9x that doesn't want to see a scarecard on turn that kills the action.

Might be that I'm overleveling myself here, but when 2 players show strength here and I have strong hand I would definitely be inclined to "jam" to make my hand to look like a draw.

Originally posted by CPallo
I think this is a bit different spot with aggro 3-way than it would be heads-up. It's a cold jam over 2 players, who have shown strength here. Why would he bluff here with flush-draw etc. when it seems clear that at least hero is never folding? I can't see the point on it. It would be a whole different story if we were heads-up with this aggro guy, he could do that with wider range. Now I think his hand is 9x that doesn't want to see a scarecard on turn that kills the action.

Might be that I'm overleveling myself here, but when 2 players show strength here and I have strong hand I would definitely be inclined to "jam" to make my hand to look like a draw.

I don't think that much strength was shown to begin with.

First villain donks 2x and we raise to just 90c (smaller than the actual pot) and our range can be really wide here since we raise a 2x donk from a fish. Why does it mean that hero isn't folding? Is hero just raising big overpairs and 9x? How about other value/semibluffs?

And we are going in with the assumption that villain is an aggro fish which adds a lot.