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domycia
Joined: 27.10.2012

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PL Omaha $0.05(BB) Replayer
SB ($5)
BB ($12.56)
UTG ($18.62)
CO ($4)
Hero ($14.48)

Dealt to Hero T♠ 7♥ T♦ 8♠

UTG calls $0.05, CO raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, fold, BB calls $0.15, UTG calls $0.15

FLOP ($0.82) T♣ 4♣ 9♠

BB checks, UTG checks, CO bets $0.50, Hero raises to $2.29, BB calls $2.29, UTG folds, CO raises to $3.80 (AI), Hero calls $1.51, BB calls $1.51

TURN ($12.22) T♣ 4♣ 9♠ 3♣

BB checks, Hero checks

RIVER ($12.22) T♣ 4♣ 9♠ 3♣ 7♦

BB bets $5.25, Hero folds

vs unks

OK played? How about shove Turn? I have 29% pot odds and 23% equity vs A high flush. Maybe shove could be good if we include some Folding equity?


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Turn is a supereasy shove imo. He doesn't always have the flush, and even if he does you have almost enough equity. Imagine tough, if he turns a straight draw here, and you give him a free card ott, or he even bluffs you off the best hand. That can be a huge mistake, so i'm happy shipping here on the turn 100% of the time.


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RuiBouquet
Joined: 21.03.2008

I would raise flop to 2.12$ and shove it then.


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Originally posted by Skodljivec
Turn is a supereasy shove imo. He doesn't always have the flush, and even if he does you have almost enough equity. Imagine tough, if he turns a straight draw here, and you give him a free card ott, or he even bluffs you off the best hand. That can be a huge mistake, so i'm happy shipping here on the turn 100% of the time.

I would disagree. He has very often flush and he would not fold if we shove. If we shove then we´re likely only get called by better hands and if he has there worse hand we can check it down.
I would also prefer raising flop 2$, since then I can shove if CO decides to go all-in.

best regards,


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Ribbo
Joined: 25.06.2010

I take the free card as well here on the turn.

It's a dry side pot and I really expect one of the 2 opponents to have a flush here.

You're probably already losing the main pot, it's possible you're against a straight draw and a lower set, but most people who commit to boards like this have either a flush draw or a set. Given we have an 87 in our hand as well makes it less likely for someone else to have a straight wrap.

River feels like a safe fold.


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

I might have gotten a bit ahead of myself, and it may not be an supereasy shove, but i'd still snap shove this. I doubt monsterwraps will fold to our bet, and i think his range has a lot of those as well. And i'm also happy to make those fold just in case, as they still have more than enough equty to call our ship and they will not realize it


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Tim64
Joined: 03.11.2008

Are we not able to just shove the flop once CO goes all in? We are incredibly deep with BB. I think we will have lots of tricky decisions later by just calling.

As played shoving turn looks wrong. Can't see someone paying so much on the flop to draw to a flush, making it, then folding.


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Originally posted by Tim64
Are we not able to just shove the flop once CO goes all in? We are incredibly deep with BB. I think we will have lots of tricky decisions later by just calling.

As played shoving turn looks wrong. Can't see someone paying so much on the flop to draw to a flush, making it, then folding.

He can't raise there, as the AI guy didn't raise 2x ( i think that's the rule? ).

I'm always confused with that. Thank good the software takes care of it. But yeah, if possible, like rui said, we should try and raise less on the flop so we can shove if CO shoves


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RuiBouquet
Joined: 21.03.2008

Yah, basically if a player re-raises less than the previous raise, the last raise isn't a legal raise... This way, any player that have already played in pot can only call or fold.

In this situation he had 3.30$ left after he betted 0.5$. So, if you raise 1.15$ (3.30$/2) to 1.65$, and he goes all-in (to 3.80$, raising also 1.15$), that's a legal raise and you can raise again.

If you raise to 1.16$ to 1.66$ he can only reraise 1.14$ over that raise that wouldn't be a legal raise. So, if he shoves you can just call or fold.


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