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22$; 10man; bb800, 32s ITM co-op with an unpredictable maniac?

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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $800(BB) Replayer
Hero ($1,741)
BB ($17,263)
BTN ($996)

BTN antes $25
BB antes $25
Hero antes $25

Dealt to Hero 2♥ 3♥

BTN raises to $971 (AI), Hero folds

BU is a tight (in the earlier phases) fish 39/33/2/38 (3 handed)
BB is a maniac 53/20/inf/17

im not sure how to approach this spot and calculate it (if its possible in the first place). against any reasonable BB im calling ATC hoping to check it down (20% odds pre, a bit better if we count him overcalling). Here i folded cause i thought that he may actually bluff post like crazy (which i would understand if he was abusing the stack setup but he wasnt).

ive tried to do some calcs (assuming a co-op) and here are the results:
lets say BU is on 40% and BB is calling ATC whether i call or not.

if i fold:
BU wins ~60% of the time and im most likely 3rd since im the shorty with 1.5bb
~40% im 2nd

if i call:
my computer is too slow to count a 3way equity like this, meaning im too impatient :) after 10 minutes it showed 36% completed and BU win% of 45% so lets assume its gonna be close to it. So it looks like an easy ATC call IF we think that BB is gonna play along but what to do if he's a maniac? It looks like i should have called anyway, i dont have much to loose anyway and this way im at least giving myself a shot at 1st since there is a slim chance that i win this pot and reduce the stack disadvantage for HU. thoughts?


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i think its worth the investment to flat and try a coop. the BB probably isnt crazy enough to ship ATC (he will ship good playable hands but he will check bottom 40%). the main thing is you are getting 5:1 on a call so it doesnt really matter if BB ships 2/5 times because you still get odds to play on the times he checks his trash.


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so you call... but then if BB ships, you have to call your whole stack, right? .. in order to force the BU to have to win an all in vs 2 opponents or bust in 3rd...


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correct


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