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33$; 10man; bb300; 62o freeplay shallow, shall i bluff?

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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009
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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $300(BB) Replayer
SB ($3,015)
Hero ($1,565)
UTG ($5,035)
UTG+1 ($2,990)
UTG+2 ($1,640)
CO ($1,750)
BTN ($4,005)

Dealt to Hero 6♣ 2♠

fold, UTG+1 calls $300, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero checks

FLOP ($750) K♦ 3♥ 8♦

Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

TURN ($750) K♦ 3♥ 8♦ 7♣

Hero checks, UTG+1 checks

RIVER ($750) K♦ 3♥ 8♦ 7♣ A♦

Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $375, Hero folds

UTG+1 wins $750

big time looser 19/9/1.5/639 (raise 1st MP 13% (86), limp MP 4%)

hand a bit similar to this one, from the 5-21$ forum.

if it was deeper im stabbing turn always. Here i didnt cause if it doesnt work im loosing all the FE i had left for shoving pre. On the other hand this bluff is usually very effective and if it works its gonna improve my stack situation a lot because of how short i am.

Would you say that its player dependant? lets say you stab against loose limpers but wouldnt here because his range is weighted more towards pockets and Ax which would make him call turn more often?

as played i dont think stabbing river makes a lot of sense.


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Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008
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Like you say we must be putting him on a tight range here.. When he checks back flop he's only really opting for two things either controlling the pot or trapping. I don't think his plan is ever to give up to a bet on turn. It's a draw heavy board and it's just more likely that he has something here worth calling than something he just feels like check/folding against a guy freeplaying.

As played and with that river card hitting. Stabbing river is not good.


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I find people don't fold often enough so I want to have some kind of equity to stab at these pots (at least a gutter or bottom pair or 2 high cards).


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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009
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assuming that was the case here would you still do it even though we're so short that if it doesnt work (i assume we're bet/folding turn, ch/folding river unimproved) we're gonna loose all our FE for preflop shoves?


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Originally posted by wiarygodny
assuming that was the case here would you still do it even though we're so short that if it doesnt work (i assume we're bet/folding turn, ch/folding river unimproved) we're gonna loose all our FE for preflop shoves?

yes I would still stab turn with equity because I think we get more than the required 30-40% folds to make it profitable + we would have backup equity.


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