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Atoks
Joined: 01.06.2008

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[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$10,75:///////;BU$10,91:112/18/13/2,6/35/23/75/33;[/tg]
0,05/0,1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.60 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q♣, Q♠
2 folds, Hero raises to $0,40, BU raises to $0,90, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3,50, BU calls $2,60.

Flop: ($7,15) 5♥, A♦, K♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, BU bets $2,00, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $9,15

Good fold? not too sure if I'm pot commited here or not and wether it was a good idea to rereraise him preflop. Basicaly I wanted to push him off any other hands then AA or KK. Good play or...?


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hi
preflop you either 4 bet / push(call) or you fold . otherwise(if you 3bet/fold ) you are turning queens into a bluff and their are to strong to do this .
flop sucks hard . an ace and a king hit the board and with his stats this cards hit his range hard. even you have left just a pot size bet i think check/folding its ok
gl


Atoks
Joined: 01.06.2008

Originally posted by srohack
hi
preflop you either 4 bet / push(call) or you fold . otherwise(if you 3bet/fold ) you are turning queens into a bluff and their are to strong to do this .
flop sucks hard . an ace and a king hit the board and with his stats this cards hit his range hard. even you have left just a pot size bet i think check/folding its ok
gl

So basicaly make it at least 4$ and call push or can I still fold if he pushes me?


hi
as a general rule that you can use when you are oop with queens and get 3 beted with 100bb stacks :
you either 4 bet and get it in if you know he can do that with more then AA KK or you just fold in the other case .
as played (with him raising so small its ok to call flop for set value)
gl

look at your equity :

his range : just AA and KK

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

123,285,888 games 0.005 secs 24,657,177,600 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 18.259% 18.03% 00.22% 22233672 277182.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 81.741% 81.52% 00.22% 100497852 277182.00 { KK+ }

his range (very tight) :AA,KK,QQ,AK
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

297,940,896 games 0.005 secs 59,588,179,200 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.207% 38.35% 01.86% 114253440 5540034.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 59.793% 57.93% 01.86% 172607388 5540034.00 { QQ+, AKs, AKo }

his range ( normal 3 beting range including suited connectors as air ) :99+,AQ+,AJs,87s,98s,10js
Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

585,607,968 games 0.005 secs 117,121,593,600 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.591% 56.48% 01.11% 330767928 6487722.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 42.409% 41.30% 01.11% 241864596 6487722.00 { JJ+, 99, AJs+, 98s, AQo+ }

so you are almost fliping with a very tight range and are ahead of a decent range
gl


Petrificus
Joined: 18.02.2008

What about calling his reraise preflop and getting it in on the flop, if there were no overcards and folding on such a flop? Is that too weak?


Originally posted by Petrificus
What about calling his reraise preflop and getting it in on the flop, if there were no overcards and folding on such a flop? Is that too weak?

With QQ I like to go 4-bet/call oop.
Ip you sometimes call and then getting it all-in on good flops.
Also his 3-bet is very small, so I like here making 4-bet.
On the flop: I think betting here 4$/folding to any action on the turn or river is better than give up. He could also call with TT, JJ and if you c/f then you're going to fold better hand.


On the flop: I think betting here 4$/folding to any action on the turn or river is better than give up. He could also call with TT, JJ and if you c/f then you're going to fold better hand.

if you bet 4$ you have to call another 3$ in a 18.5$ pot so you cant actualy bet / fold because you are comited .
either check/ fold or bet/call if you wanna bet ...
imo


Petrificus
Joined: 18.02.2008

With QQ I like to go 4-bet/call oop.
Ip you sometimes call and then getting it all-in on good flops.

That sounds good; just read this in an article today
But on the 4$ bet/fold line i have to agree with srohack


Originally posted by srohack

On the flop: I think betting here 4$/folding to any action on the turn or river is better than give up. He could also call with TT, JJ and if you c/f then you're going to fold better hand.

if you bet 4$ you have to call another 3$ in a 18.5$ pot so you cant actualy bet / fold because you are comited .
either check/ fold or bet/call if you wanna bet ...
imo

Yes, you´re right.
You´re pot committed if he shoves.
So against passive player c/f is fine.