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[SH] NL50, AK, 3barr

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TetraQuark
Joined: 21.05.2008

23/16, AFQ 45% - 3,5k hands.

OR CO 29%, F23B CO 53%, 4b CO 10%.

F2CB in 3b 45/ 9(11)/ 0(5). WTSD 34%, WWSF 49%.

Kinda unsure which board textures to triple barrel in these spots. This guy seemed to have a decent defending range. What is conserning is his low f2cb on later streets and rather high wts. But sample in those are also pretty limited.

I played w eqilab a bit, to see if there is enough hands he folds on river. Even tho he defends a decent amount it is still very close.

Your thoughts on this hand overal?

$0.25/$0.50 Zoom No Limit Holdem
6 Players

Stacks:
UTG ($50.75) 102bb
UTG+1 ($108.71) 217bb
CO ($70.01) 140bb
BTN ($58.24) 116bb
Hero (SB) ($50) 100bb
BB ($50) 100bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 6 players) Hero is SB K♠ A♠
2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, CO calls $3.50

Flop: Q♣ 2♠ 6♣ ($10.50, 2 players)
Hero bets $5.75, CO calls $5.75

Turn: 5♣ ($22, 2 players)
Hero bets $11, CO calls $11

River: 9♠ ($44, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $28.25, CO calls $28.25


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

hi

based on his stats alone I think it's very optimistic to expect him to fold much here. I think the Flop cbet is fine mostly because you have backdoors. The Turn cbet is way too loose and when he calls his range is mostly QX and flushes. I don't think he ever folds KQ and AQ on the river given his F to R cbet and WTSD.

Maybe you want to share your findings here and I can check if they are accurate or are overly optimistic.

Thanks


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General thought is Q-high boards are suited to callers range, whether he calls blind vs steal or steal vs 3bet. That's why I think better to check flop.
I don't know how he is capabe to fold his 88, TT-JJ vs the turn bet, but with a club he anyway will not fold.
But also his club calling range on the turn is still balanced with Qx which are very frequent. I don't think bluff is good.


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Originally posted by pokerferrer
General thought is Q-high boards are suited to callers range, whether he calls blind vs steal or steal vs 3bet. That's why I think better to check flop.

this is partially true but
1. Hero has spades so he can barrel more turns
2. CO opens really wide at 29%
3. He folds very little at 53% vs 3bets

this means that his range isn't that tight, so he's gonna have enough suited connectors and suited aces which will just fold vs the flop cbet


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But we are ahead vs connectors on the flop. And there is no better hands which will fold vs flop bet.


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

better hands aren't folding to one bet, but this is why you have backdoors for barreling later streets.

connectors and suited aces are worse but you suggested check/folding which means that we just get bluffed out by those type of hands.


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TetraQuark
Joined: 21.05.2008

Okay I kinda see the point. I went from flop to turn to river, with pretty much the same range. He does however fold around 50% on flop, so unless he floats like 100% of his preflop calling range, it is pretty optimistic of me to barrel here, right?

You two also got some interesting discussin going on, right now I like both of your arguments and I am a bit unsure if cbetting on Qh toned boards is good or not w AK.

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Guy called 3streets w KK, which got me thinking I am dealing with a thinking opponent, who maybe even thinks about balance a bit. How do we like his play, shouldn't he be shoving turn? Also vs him it is very important to not make such mistakes. So I am rly curious wether to cbet or not here. THX!


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

QXX is good for callers of 3bets and 4bets but you must always take villain's entire range into consideration, based on stats and positions.

1. Tight calling ranges are mostly made up of AQ/KQs/mid pairs. Loose ranges can have more suited connectors and aces. Vs a looser range a cbet could be better
2. Backdoors are great for balancing your betting frequencies

I think A:sK:s is a clear bet in this situation, but with the other AK combos without backdoor flush draws it's much closer.


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