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22$; 10man; bb400, AJo, near bubble, BvB vs a fish 18bb deep

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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009
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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $400(BB) Replayer
Hero ($7,020)
BB ($7,220)
UTG ($2,370)
CO ($3,360)
BTN ($30)

Dealt to Hero A♥ J♠

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $880, BB calls $480

FLOP ($1,760) 7♥ T♦ T♠

Hero bets $690, BB calls $690

TURN ($3,140) 7♥ T♦ T♠ T♥

Hero checks, BB checks

RIVER ($3,140) 7♥ T♦ T♠ T♥ K♣

Hero checks, BB bets $1,570, Hero folds

BB wins $3,140

fishy unknown 22/13/0.3/79 (5-6 handed)

another one played rather poorly on my part

i didn't want to push pre since he needs to call only more than 10% to make it a -EV push. raise in this case is standard imo (not sure i want to try limp/shoving against an unknown with this hand in case he checks back pre and gets sticky post).

He doesn't really look like a bluffer so i think bet/folding this flop is quite allright. Once he calls it he can have absolutely anything imo since this board welcomes floats (not that i have any reads on him being a floater). The board developement in fact is really confusing for me cause on one hand i hold a pretty strong hand on the other have no idea how to assess the probability of getting paid by a worse hand and/or what is gonna be his turn/river betting range.

turn as played - i guess ch/c (any normal sized bet) is OK since he can have mentioned floats or maybe even betting a worse Ax for value (although i doubt that tbh).

once he checks it back i really dont know what to make of it, it looks like some kind of a SD value, right?

river - i may be still ahead (draws if he decided to play them passively on the turn) + floats he didnt bet on the turn (fish do that sometimes) + worse Ax. shall i blockbet/fold then? it looks like a perfect spot for this play.

on the other hand i was planning to ch/call turn so maybe i can do the same on the river (the problem is that i think there will be many more weaker hands in his betting range on the turn than there are on the river, right?)

or maybe my ch/fold is fine against this player since i beat only bluffs (not very likely) or thinly vbet Ax (also not that likely imo).

tbh i would prefer a blockbet/fold. I like ch/calling the least. Agreed?


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this hand is tricky because of the ICM. having 2 really big stacks colliding near the bubble is a disaster. I don't think you can raise/call pre vs him, so you are basically just raise/folding pre. This seems pretty weak to me. I think a limp strategy pre-flop is best, you can keep the pot small OOP and limp/shove is definitely going to be profitable (he will see your limp as weakness and raise a wide range).

as played, checking it down with the high ICM tax is best. nothing much you can do on the river. just c/f imo.


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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009
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i agree that i cant even think abt raise/calling pre. I wouldnt worry too much abt having to bet/fold pre since imo average unknowns are not gonna abuse this spot like they should and they will simply 3bet their standard value range which makes it an easy fold unless he's a maniac (i dont have such a read on him). Imo they will rather flat a lot and i dont mind it that much with my hand. the obv advantage of raising is the initiative post. But i guess youre right that by limping we're not neccesarily giving up on the initiative at the same time gaining some extra room for postflop since its only 18bb deep after all. Thanks for the limp tip, i like it! (so i assume that you raise only those hands that youre calling with? sth like AK TT+, maybe even JJ+?).

as played - you say abt checking it down. is that including the flop or youre talking abt turn and river after i fire my cbet (which i see as standard)? ch/folding both turn and river unless he gives us some really great odds?


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yeah I would only raise pure value r/c like TT+ AK. and Maybe the occasional blocker bluff raise with an A2o just to r/f.

yes still cbet, then c/f turn/riv


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