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NL25 SH A8s - clalssic situation - cbet, check, c/f :(

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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

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NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
SB ($36.69)
BB ($12.70)
UTG ($25)
Hero ($28.01)
CO ($25.25)
BTN ($20.22)

Dealt to Hero 8♠ A♠

fold, Hero raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($1.85) K♦ 2♥ T♠

Hero bets $1.30, CO calls $1.30

TURN ($4.45) K♦ 2♥ T♠ T♥

Hero checks, CO checks

RIVER ($4.45) K♦ 2♥ T♠ T♥ 6♥

Hero checks, CO bets $3, Hero folds

CO wins $4.25

40/20 6 hands zoom

FLop cbet because I have backford FD, can rep Kx.

Turn - maybe could continue repping Kx, and he could fold QQ-JJ, but QQ is not that likely and there is only JJ left. But he can have Kx in his range which is not folding. KQ, AK, maybe KJs.

Now it looks like I am beat, but we are unknowns, so he can easily do whatever he wants - like repping Kx which called flop and now betting for value. So I don't like this.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey SpeedFANat1c,

Turn is fine to check. T:h not a good barrel card.

Check fold river is fine. You can't really do anything about it. If he does bluff it may often be with something like AJ/AQ which beats you anyway.

The main cause of this spot is the disadvantage of being OOP, not necessarily anything that can be done. However, A8s is not a mandatory open from MP, so if you find you are getting into a lot of these spots then perhaps tighten up your MP opening range.


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SPeedFANat1c
Joined: 04.01.2009

I think A8s at this limit zoom MP is like default, because they give lot of credit and fold a lot. So I think even by giving up postflop I will make profit. And once they call - they call with decent hands which adds more implied odds when I hit flush.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by SPeedFANat1c
I think A8s at this limit zoom MP is like default, because they give lot of credit and fold a lot. So I think even by giving up postflop I will make profit. And once they call - they call with decent hands which adds more implied odds when I hit flush.

Nothing wrong with opening this hand.

But if you are repeatedly getting into tough spots with it and feel you are not making the best of it, might be a good reason to reconsider opening it.

If you have a decent sample size of hands check your suited Ax from UTG and MP and see if they are making you profit. Might be interesting just to check.


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