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Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $22.58 (225.8 bb)
Hero (SB): $9.72 (97.2 bb)
BB: $11.25 (112.5 bb)
UTG: $12.33 (123.3 bb)
MP: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $4.05 (40.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.60) 2 6 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.40, BB raises to $1, Hero raises to $2.70, BB raises to $10.95 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.72

Turn: ($19.44) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($19.44) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

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$19.44 pot ($0.87 rake)
Final Board: 2 6 4 9 2
Hero showed K K and lost (-$9.72 net)
BB showed 3 5 and won $18.57 ($8.85 net)

Zoom so no info on villain.
Im guessing its a pretty obvious fold once he 4bet shoves?


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Hi DavidNegranu,

Preflop: looks fine

Postflop: Given the stack sizes, positions and board texture I can't see how we can fold the flop. I would however 3-bet larger to 3-3.5 or so.

As a side note, when you leave a reply, don't forget to hit the advise judge to take another look button.


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CPallo
Joined: 12.04.2012

Yes, this should indeed be a fold - people don't stack-off lighter from later positions on NL10 zoom generally as they don't fully understand how hero's range or their own perceived range should change. So I think he has sets in his range pretty often. From time to time they could have hands like 77-> TT, but I think they won't 4-bet it themselves.


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Yeh, that was my thought too, figure hes going to show up with a lot of sets, 35 and some wierd two pairs like 42 and 64. Obviously with no info on the opponent its tough but I have also seen people make wierd moves with a hand like 84 or 96 and also sometimes some kind of pair and gutshot in this kinda spot too. Though I think his range is more heavily weighted to very strong made hands?

Also thank you for telling me about the advising judge to look again, I had no idea that was there. I'm a forum noob :)


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I don't think it's a fold, even vs this range we are favorites:

Board: 2♣6♣4♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
SB     55.01%  54.50%   0.51% { KhKs }
BB     44.99%  44.47%   0.51% { 88-77, 22, 6d6h, 6d6s, 6h6s, 4h4s, 4h4c, 4s4c, AcQc, KcQc, AcJc, QcJc, AcTc, JcTc, Ac9c, Tc9c, Ac8c, 9c8c, Ac7c }

Even vs much tighter range we are not hopeless:

Board: 2♣6♣4♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
SB     44.54%  44.07%   0.47% { KhKs }
BB     55.46%  54.99%   0.47% { 77-66, 44, 22, AcQc, KcQc, QcJc, JcTc }

And we need only around 32% to make it break even without rake.


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Originally posted by GreenPiece
I don't think it's a fold, even vs this range we are favorites:

Board: 2♣6♣4♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
SB     55.01%  54.50%   0.51% { KhKs }
BB     44.99%  44.47%   0.51% { 88-77, 22, 6d6h, 6d6s, 6h6s, 4h4s, 4h4c, 4s4c, AcQc, KcQc, AcJc, QcJc, AcTc, JcTc, Ac9c, Tc9c, Ac8c, 9c8c, Ac7c }

Even vs much tighter range we are not hopeless:

Board: 2♣6♣4♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
SB     44.54%  44.07%   0.47% { KhKs }
BB     55.46%  54.99%   0.47% { 77-66, 44, 22, AcQc, KcQc, QcJc, JcTc }

And we need only around 32% to make it break even without rake.

+1, as I mentioned earlier, given the texture and info we have (or don't have) we can't really justify a fold.


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