nl100 turn decision

02.09.2008, 22:37 0

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG MissDonk ($102.70)
CO Hero ($306.50)
BTN peter262 ($106.30)
SB theman52 ($199.50)
BB Zerb28 ($98.50)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Hero is CO 8♠ T♠
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, Zerb28 calls $2.50

Flop: 5♦ 7♠ 6♥ ($7.50, 2 players)
Zerb28 checks, Hero bets $6, Zerb28 raises to $18, Hero calls $12

Turn: 9♦ ($43.50, 2 players)
Zerb28 bets $30, Hero calls $30

River: 5♣ ($103.50, 2 players)
Zerb28 bets $47, Hero calls $47

i was playing preaty lose at the moment
villain was playing 15 / 11 / 1.75
i was sure i stack him if i hit
i am still not sure about the flop call .

4 replies

_Anonymous_

03.09.2008, 01:22 0

flop call is very marginal imo because I think he has a set 95% time given his line and a straight the 4% left (maybe 1% bluff with 88/78 or smth but unlikely imo).

I would shove turn all day, I mean its pretty clear he is not folding given the bet sizing he uses and you don't want to have a delicate decision on a river pairing the board

chenny8888

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03.09.2008, 06:39 0

Originally posted by lilprincess
flop call is very marginal imo because I think he has a set 95% time given his line and a straight the 4% left (maybe 1% bluff with 88/78 or smth but unlikely imo).

I would shove turn all day, I mean its pretty clear he is not folding given the bet sizing he uses and you don't want to have a delicate decision on a river pairing the board

if this is the case i would call the flop and shove the turn always.

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_Anonymous_

03.09.2008, 10:35 0

SORY THE TITLE IS WRONG .
i was wondering about FLOP decision . not turn decision .

Timor83

Joined: 08.06.2007

Posts: 720

03.09.2008, 12:33 0

On the flop you need about 38% equity, which you don't have based purely on expressed odds. Now, let's consider the implied odds.
You're in position, which is good, but if a straight card (4 or 9) drops and you show strength, your hand is pretty much face up. However, you need to make an extra +/-10$ on average to make this call profitable, which I think is reasonable. Against a set or bare 8, this is always the case, perhaps even against 2 pair. Shoving on the other hand is only getting called by hands which have you beat, so calling is ok.
Though the question is how to play on the flop, your turnplay isn't optimal. You have the nuts, so raise. If you have a read that you will stack him if you hit, the purpose is to get his money in the middle, which you don't accomplish by slowplaying. On top of that, there are a lot of bad cards for your hand on the river: 12 cards pair the board and a T counterfeits your nut straight.
As played, call is ok on the river.

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