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22$; 60/40 6max; bb40; AJo, facing a clickraise on 884 oop

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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009

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NL Holdem $40(BB) Replayer
SB ($2,280)
BB ($1,940)
UTG ($1,960)
Hero ($1,740)
CO ($2,080)
BTN ($2,000)

Dealt to Hero A♦ J♠

fold, Hero raises to $100, CO calls $100, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($260) 8♦ 8♣ 4♣

Hero bets $90, CO raises to $180, Hero raises to $440

fishy unknown 26/18/3/187

would you say its a PoF after he clickraises? the pot is already 530 so taking it down uncontested would be great. Ive 3bet small since i wasn't sure he's on a bluff and didn't want to spew off my whole stack. on the other hand a plr like that may easily flat with whatever he holds and i don't really know what to do on vast majority of turns with an awkward SPR of ~1.


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well played imo. with smaller SPR I would just jam flop over his fish click raise. but starting this deep you can still 3bet/fold vs him (he looks quite tight, so should play face up vs your line).


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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009

what would you do on the turn if he flats flop? Obv im talking abt a card that doesnt hit us.

a) a total blank - a non club 9-
b) a non club T, Q, or K
c) a club?

cause tbh i have no idea what to do in any of these scenarios. I'll prolly shove b) and ch/f a) and c) but im really not sure abt it.


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i would just check/fold if we miss. if he went raise/call flop, that indicates to me he has something and a turn barrel probably won't get him off.

total blank, c/f cause he definitely isnt folding
non club T/Q/K , c/f cause i dont think he will be that scared of those cards
club , this you MIGHT be able to just bluff shove because fish get very scared of flush draws. But I still think it's too risky. We made our play on the flop, it didnt work out, c/f.


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

For one thing, I like bigger cbet OOP tbh. Also, a fish is gonna very often see your small cbet as a weakness and try to exploit it. Then the problem remains- you have a non-made hand OOP.

So, I just size this 130 OOP and 100 IP.

Also-why blow up the pot with a 3bet on the flop? Why not flat and c/c any Turn and fold rivers if we miss/big sizing? It's the only way we get value from bluffs, we are deep, we can afford to play around a bit. I also think shoving flop will be better with lower SPR, prolly I then I like a smaller sizing of the cbet also.

Or you advocate for 3bet/folding on the flop just because we don't wanna be playing OOP?


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yes i also cbet bigger OOP.

i like 3betting because I do not want to soul read turn/river OOP.


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