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akasoul
Joined: 17.06.2007

Hi,

not sure about the turn bet, the 9s hits too well HJ range.

im getting 5:1 on my turn bet so I need to win around 16%, I think I have enough equity here given I could get a call from Ahi and 1card flush draws??????????

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8 8
UTG folds, MP raises, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, MP calls

Flop: (7.4 SB) K Q 2 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets, MP calls

Turn: (4.7 BB) 9 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets, MP calls

River: (6.7 BB) K (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks


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Boomer2k10
Joined: 22.09.2010

I think this is just about a check on the turn and give up

However the idea of turning a pp into a bluff on this board is more the fine, in fact 55-66 here is pretty much a mandatory bluff, if you don't have those hands in your 3-bet vs HJ range then obv 77-88 become the more likely candidates.

But I would certainly think about betting low suited Aces as bluffs on this turn and adding some low PPs in as well. The best of which you should give up on the river but the bottom of which you should probably still bluff on the river.

Something like this maybe?


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firsttsunami
Joined: 23.01.2006

I would actually bet the Turn and fold to a checkraise. Just a minority dares to checkraise the Turn as a semibluff and when you bet twice, your range has hit this board quite well but since he won't certainly bluff with AT AJ and you won't get more money by small pocketpairs but you chase his flushdraws and if he'd fold AT or AJ with no :spade: it'll be a great success. GTO wise i agree that TT JJ 99 88 may be fine to put those hands into your checkbehind range and call the River with. Since you need to have some pairs in your checkbingback range and Boomer is right to bluff the small suited Aces and rather bluffing more polarized. But in a vakuum i'd prefer bet/fold Turn.


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floaty
Joined: 13.04.2010

Originally posted by Boomer2k10
I think this is just about a check on the turn and give up

However the idea of turning a pp into a bluff on this board is more the fine, in fact 55-66 here is pretty much a mandatory bluff, if you don't have those hands in your 3-bet vs HJ range then obv 77-88 become the more likely candidates.

But I would certainly think about betting low suited Aces as bluffs on this turn and adding some low PPs in as well. The best of which you should give up on the river but the bottom of which you should probably still bluff on the river.

Something like this maybe?

Is that your 3bet range vs a HJ opr?


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Boomer2k10
Joined: 22.09.2010

Originally posted by floaty

Originally posted by Boomer2k10
I think this is just about a check on the turn and give up

However the idea of turning a pp into a bluff on this board is more the fine, in fact 55-66 here is pretty much a mandatory bluff, if you don't have those hands in your 3-bet vs HJ range then obv 77-88 become the more likely candidates.

But I would certainly think about betting low suited Aces as bluffs on this turn and adding some low PPs in as well. The best of which you should give up on the river but the bottom of which you should probably still bluff on the river.

Something like this maybe?

Is that your 3bet range vs a HJ opr?

Yes

That particular range has about 54% equity vs a 26% HJ open so it may even be a bit tight. Basically it was a bit of a monkey-maths goal-seek using Equilab and me playing around a little bit.

There are certainly some hands which could be dropped from there (QJo being the most obvious and maybe A5-A6s and add in A9o) so if you want to drop them it's fine but if we do we have to bluff higher up the Ax tree.

You can always use something like this which is probably a bit better:


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