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Hi,

I plan on using this as a diary/hand evaluation poster for 45 man turbos.

I am currently at the $0.50 levels. I'm going through a terrible losing streak and I'm losing confidence and faith in what I thought was a solid game.

But IS it a solid game? I hope to use this thread to investigate this.

I'm going to go back to what seem like very basic hands, but I just want to make sure I'm understanding the fundamentals correctly. I think I may have been getting comfortable with too many marginal plays which I hope to gradually eliminate.

Might as well start with:

1)

UTG: t4299 28.66 BBs
UTG+1: t1200 8 BBs
MP1: t2555 17.03 BBs
MP2: t1800 12 BBs
CO: t2456 16.37 BBs
BTN: t2810 18.73 BBs
SB: t3015 20.10 BBs
Hero (BB): t1565 10.43 BBs

Pre Flop: (t225) Hero is BB with A :diamond: K :heart:

UTG raises to t375, 6 folds, Hero raises to t1565 all in, UTG calls t1190

Flop: (t3205) 2 :diamond: 6 :spade: Q :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t3205) 3 :heart: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t3205) 8 :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

--> To me, it seemed to be an obvious shove. I didn't know much about my opponent. These $0.50's and my losing streak have played with my head a bit, so sorry if this is obvious!

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2)

SB: t1545 30.90 BBs
BB: t1345 26.90 BBs
UTG: t2885 57.70 BBs
UTG+1: t4840 96.80 BBs
MP: t1265 25.30 BBs
CO: t3290 65.80 BBs
Hero (BTN): t1385 27.70 BBs

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BTN with A :club: 6 :spade:
4 folds
HERO: ???

-->I like to play fairly tight at the beginning and wait for the maniacs to die (hopefully killed by me when I hit a big hand). I find they can sometimes be VERY defensive of their blinds... So my thinking here was to not mess around with my A6 because I didn't like the idea of someone coming over the top. I thought I'd be patient for the push/fold phase.

The information I had:
SB: tight (VPIP 10) [is it right to define tight in this way?]
BB: unknown

Was this incorrect?

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3)

MP2: t1500 75 BBs
CO: t1480 74 BBs
BTN: t1700 85 BBs
SB: t1480 74 BBs
BB: t1500 75 BBs
UTG: t1500 75 BBs
UTG+1: t1480 74 BBs
UTG+2: t1360 68 BBs
Hero (MP1): t1500 75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is MP1 with Q :heart: A :heart:
2 folds, UTG+2 calls t20, Hero raises to t80, 2 folds, BTN calls t80, 3 folds

Flop: (t210) 5 :spade: 7 :spade: 8 :diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets t105, BTN calls t105

Turn: (t420) 7 :heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (t420) 3 :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

-->I figured there was a good chance he was chasing a flush draw, but early on, I felt it was right to let the cards do the talking. Maybe I'm wrong?

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ANY feedback on these hands would be greatly appreciated. I know they are probably very basic, but I want to start here and see where we can go...


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Here's my opinion

1. std against anyone

2. raise btn, play a flop if they flat, fold if they jam, you have 27bb stack plenty of room for post flop play

3. Meh, crappy flop you have 2 overs on a drawy board I may one and done this flop against some villains who are fit or fold, am just in c/f mode against most villains.

GL


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I'm quite new here and to poker, so sorry if the terminology is incorrect, but I hope you'll help me learn!

Session #1

Tourneys Entered: 4 x $0.50
Positions Finished: 1, 2, 20, 32
Profit: (-$2.00) + $6.30 + $4.35 = $8.65

Hands for Questioning:

1)*32/45

UTG+1: t1500 75 BBs
UTG+2: t1490 74.50 BBs
MP1: t1131 56.55 BBs
MP2: t1470 73.50 BBs
CO: t1959 97.95 BBs
BTN: t1470 73.50 BBs
Hero (SB): t1480 74 BBs
BB: t1500 75 BBs
UTG: t1500 75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is SB with K :spade: A :diamond:
3 folds, MP1 raises to t80, 3 folds, Hero calls t70, 1 fold

Flop: (t180) 5 :diamond: 3 :diamond: 3 :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets t60, Hero calls t60

Turn: (t300) 4 :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets t80, Hero calls t80

River: (t460) 2 :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets t180, Hero calls t180

-->Firstly, is flat-calling in the SB with AK okay? My thinking was: it was early in the tournament, and I didn't want to be involved in a big pot.
I think it CAN be quite profitable to just shove against very early-active players (they call with a lot of junk), but sometimes they have a pair, and you're flipping against a player who you could probably get a lot more value out of... Hmm, just a thought...
Another option was obviously a re-raise (Maybe 3x Villain's raise?). My thinking behind this was it has a go at winning the hand there and then and not having to play out of position... However, this builds a pot I (don't think) I want to build...

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2)*32/45

UTG: t1440 48 BBs
UTG+1: t1445 48.17 BBs
MP1: t1425 47.50 BBs
MP2: t644 21.47 BBs
CO: t1455 48.50 BBs
Hero (BTN): t1855 61.83 BBs
SB: t1485 49.50 BBs
BB: t3020 100.67 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN with Q :spade: K :heart:
3 folds, MP2 raises to t644 all in, 1 fold
HERO: ???

-->I folded the KQ... However, this player was WILD. Very loose. Maniacal. My question is: with TWO (so far average) players behind, is this worth isolating the shover with? It's only at level 15/30, so...???

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3)*32/45 KO HAND

UTG: t1660 16.60 BBs
UTG+1: t1120 11.20 BBs
MP1: t1135 11.35 BBs
MP2: t3323 33.23 BBs
CO: t1280 12.80 BBs
Hero (BTN): t941 9.41 BBs
SB: t1745 17.45 BBs
BB: t2850 28.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BTN with A :heart: 4 :spade:
5 folds

--> Is this a shove. Not especially loose/tight players...

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4)*20/45 KO HAND

SB: t8992 44.96 BBs
BB: t2427 12.13 BBs
UTG: t3162 15.81 BBs
Hero (UTG+1): t1245 6.22 BBs
MP: t2986 14.93 BBs
CO: t560 2.80 BBs
BTN: t1270 6.35 BBs

Pre Flop: (t300) Hero is UTG+1 with K :diamond: J :diamond:
1 fold, Hero raises to t1245 all in

-->Question: Was this shove correct?

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5)*1/45

Hero (MP2): t1500 75 BBs
CO: t1490 74.50 BBs
BTN: t1430 71.50 BBs
SB: t1460 73 BBs
BB: t1500 75 BBs
UTG: t1620 81 BBs
UTG+1: t1500 75 BBs
UTG+2: t1500 75 BBs
MP1: t1500 75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is MP2 with K :spade: K :club:
UTG raises to t40, 3 folds, Hero raises to t150, 4 folds, UTG calls t110

Flop: (t330) A :heart: Q :diamond: 9 :spade: (2 players)
UTG bets t100, Hero raises to t200, UTG raises to t300, Hero calls t100

Turn: (t930) 6 :diamond: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (t930) 4 :heart: (2 players)
UTG bets t500, Hero folds

UTG shows K :heart: 5 :heart: *sigh*

-->3 bet UTG min-raise
---->UTG calls then bets 1/3 pot.
------>Weak bet makes me think he has no A, make min-raise in the hope I confirm my suspicions...
-------->Get odd looking 3-bet-min-raise...
----------->GET PUSHED OFF THE BEST HAND...

I think my raise on the flop was not big enough to get the information I wanted. Having said that, I think that this guy would have come over the top of me then anyway... But, looking back at it, I didn't play the hand like I had an Ace at all, so perhaps I deserved this.

This is a recurring theme in the $0.50s... Strong play with strong hands sometimes doesn't shake off the junkiest. Went through a phase of just shoving my monsters. I think at this level it might actually be a pretty profitable play, but the times I get no reward hurt me too much to persist at this! I find myself becoming VERY lost against these players making very random plays.

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6)*1/45

SB: t4598 M = 10.22
BB: t3119 M = 6.93
Hero (UTG): t3657 M = 8.13
MP: t4948 M = 11.00
CO: t355 M = 0.79
BTN: t4221 M = 9.38

Pre Flop: (t450) Hero is UTG with 8 :diamond: 8 :heart:
Hero raises to t3632 all in

--> Is my M too high for this?

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7)*2/45

UTG+2: t1455 29.10 BBs
MP1: t1685 33.70 BBs
Hero (MP2): t1525 30.50 BBs
CO: t2370 47.40 BBs
BTN: t1335 26.70 BBs
SB: t1180 23.60 BBs
BB: t1440 28.80 BBs
UTG: t1180 23.60 BBs
UTG+1: t2855 57.10 BBs

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is MP2 with Q :heart: A :spade:
UTG calls t50, 3 folds, Hero raises to t200, 4 folds, UTG raises to t1180 all in, 1 fold

-->This is a fold right? Funny looking limp then shove? He HAD shoved like this once before, so one might assume he COULD be less strong than he appears... Still, I didn't want to risk it early.

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General Questions:

1) Is playing 99 UTG at levels 10/20 profitable?
2) What analysis tools do people recommend for total mastery of 45-man sit and gos? Preferably free ones at this stage...

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Thank you guys! Sorry for the essay..


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kurrkabin
Joined: 12.10.2010

Hi, is0l8!

I moved your thread to tournament forum as the SnG one covers up to 27 players. You will find more accurate and helpful responses here, I believe.

Good luck!

P.s. Also-please from now on, post these hands in the tournament hand evaluation forum. Post one hand per thread and you will get the responses of our hand judges. You are gonna need bronze status which is very, very easy to get.


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Asaban
Joined: 22.09.2006

If I am not mistaken you don't need the bronze status in order to post in our hand evaluation forums. As already mentioned you should post only one hand per thread. If you do so you will get valuable feedback from one of our coaches =)

If you still want evaluations on the hands in this thread, feel free to open up new threads in the corresponding hand evaluation forum (here: click), posting one hand per thread.

Regards,
Asaban


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