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duder1n0
Joined: 07.07.2009

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

BTN: $24.67 (49.3 bb)
SB: $75.96 (151.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
UTG: $50.50 (101 bb)
MP: $41.67 (83.3 bb)
CO: $50.14 (100.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8 Q
4 folds, SB raises to $1.25, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.50) 9 4 8 (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($4.50) 2 (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

River: ($8.50) Q (2 players)
SB bets $4.50, Hero raises to $14.50, SB raises to $71.71 and is all-in, Hero folds

SB 21/17 123 hands
SB steal 57
cbet F/T/R 71/50(1/2)/-

Is it OK to raise/fold river for value?


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Hi

River raise could be too thin esp when u are strongly repping the nts here.

I suggest u come up with a river betting range for him ( just the value hands) and see how far ahead u are vs that range.

Also consoder what hands are calling the raise and what hands are folding.


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duder1n0
Joined: 07.07.2009

His value betting range on the river (including Qx barrels) could be something like this (67 combos):

Board: 9♣8♠4♦ 2♣ Q♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
SB     44.78%  44.78%   0.00% { QQ+, 99-88, 44, Q9s+, JTs, 98s, AcQc, KcQc, Qc7c, Q9o+, JTo, 98o }
BB     55.22%  55.22%   0.00% { Qh8c }

If he is bet/folding all 1pair hands, then he would continue with the following range:

Board: 9♣8♠4♦ 2♣ Q♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
SB     83.33%  83.33%   0.00% { QQ, 99-88, 44, Q9s, JTs, 98s, Q9o, JTo, 98o }
BB     16.67%  16.67%   0.00% { Qh8c }

So even if he (sometimes) herocalls with hands like KK+/AcQc, river valueraise seems to be way too thin... I'm behind even if he always calls KK+/AcQc:

Board: 9♣8♠4♦ 2♣ Q♦
       Equity     Win     Tie
SB     61.22%  61.22%   0.00% { QQ+, 99-88, 44, Q9s, JTs, 98s, AcQc, Q9o, JTo, 98o }
BB     38.78%  38.78%   0.00% { Qh8c }


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

yup, good that you can answer your own question.

When you have 55% equity only vs his value range, I think it should be fairly obvious that you cannot raise.


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