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KJs fold. Correct? SnGWiz referred = doubtful.

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Poker Stars $0.45+$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 8 players - View hand 2305711
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BB: t4505 45.05 BBs
UTG: t1250 12.50 BBs
UTG+1: t1149 11.49 BBs
MP1: t1265 12.65 BBs
Hero (MP2): t1240 12.40 BBs
CO: t1435 14.35 BBs
BTN: t6886 68.86 BBs
SB: t3215 32.15 BBs

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is MP2 with J :club: K :club:
3 folds, HERO ???

Okay, so in SnG Wiz incorporated into HM2, it's recommending a range of 41.2%. However, when I plug the same hand into a Nash calculator, it suggests only 18.3%.

I've also played around with the Opponent Models in the SnGWiz/HM2 thing from Average to Loose to Very Loose and NOTHING changes.

So, I have two questions:
1. Why is SnGWiz/HM2 and Nash SO different?
2. Why does the opponent modelling not affect anything?

PS I ended up folding the hand, so was this correct?


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Anto11
Joined: 25.02.2011

Hello is0l8,

Nash calculator give the Nash ranges. SNG Wiz use the same calculations but villains ranges are different from Nash given ranges so our pushing range changes. If you put the same villains ranges in SNG Wiz us HRC suggest than you pushing range should be almost the same.

2. Why does the opponent modelling not affect anything?

What do you mean?

And about the shove exact hand, I like to shove. Our hand is too strong to fold it that shallow.

Guys if you have any questions, do not hesitate to write in this thread by clicking the button or

Best regards,
Antoan :pokerface:


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1. Are Nash (18.3%) and SnG (41.2%) usually this different?

2. In SnGWiz, you are able to change the 'opponent model'. Whether they are tight, loose, very loose, very tight. I had changed these around for each opponent. The $!.2% shoving range didn't change. WHY?

3. What hands can I comfortably shove here?


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Pressing the please look again button...


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I asked something above and nobody has replied...


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Anto11
Joined: 25.02.2011

Hi,

I want to ask you when you have questions about the hand to use on of this two buttons:
or
or we may miss your question and response slower than usual.

And about the hand:

1. It depends what basic range SNG Wiz gives in the situation. Sometimes they are very different. Nash ranges are always the same and if you put the same ranges for villains in SNG Wiz is should give almost the same range for you. You can find more info about SNG Wiz here.

2. If you change the ranges and you put the edge to 0 they should change for sure and became as the Nash ranges. You can also change villains ranges "by hand" for more precise ranges not just with the basic "tight, very tight" and etc.

3.What is the exact SNG tournament type because the ranges much depends on it?

PS: Here are the buttons more detailed pics with the buttons:

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and

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Best regards,
Antoan :pokerface:


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