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Stat doubts on Fix Limit Tournaments

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Vigpoe
Joined: 04.12.2009

Hi,

I have some questions about the use of stats on Fix limit tournaments.

- Which are the most interesting stats to show on HUD?
- Which are the recommended values for a TAG?
- How to recognize the different villains attending to their stats?
- How many hands need the stats to be trustfull on each case?

Thank you very much. Have a nice day.


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Asaban
Joined: 22.09.2006

Unfortunately I am a big fish when it comes to fixed limit. Therefore I can't really help you with your request.

However, I will try to get some feedback from one of our fixed limit experts and will report back afterwards.

Regards,
Asaban


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Boomer2k10
Joined: 22.09.2010

Reporting in :)

None of the stats will converge in a single tournament however Fixed Limit tournaments play quite close to cash game up until the end and even then there are some liberties (but it';s pretty much equity pushing)

Interesting stats

C-bet by Street
Let's you know if he's checking back in areas he shouldn't..i.e. flop, for a cash game you'd be looking at something like 95/70/70-ish, tourney not so sure

Fold BB to Steal
Let's you know how easy it is to steal, anything over 35 is too high..basded on what I've seen of FL tournies I wouldn't be surprised if many players had this stat over 50

Fold to C-Bet By Street
Let's you know how easy it is to barrell your opponent off hands (Alpha dicates this be something like 20/30/20) so if you see a flop fold/turn fold stat of 40 you know you have an automatically profitable c-bet on any flop but have to be wary as his continuing range will be strong

Then you've got the standard VPIP/PFR/3BET/WTSD/AFreq but they're not interesting

TAG Stats

32/23 is pretty much standard TAG these days in LHE cash games. Anything under 28/20 is pretty nitty

Recognizing Villains

Like you would in NL

Calling station: High VPIP, Low PFR, Low Afreq
Maniac: High VPIP, High PFR, High AFreq
Nit: Low VPIP, Low PFR, High Afreq, Low Def BB (Due to stronger range)
TAG: Good stats
LAG: Good stats but higher than TAG resulting in potentially lower Afreq

Other: Have a big gap between PFR and VPIP (like 40/17).

# of Hands needed

General Idea is 100's for general Preflop stats and 1000's for anything specific and 10,000 for hyper specific.


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Asaban
Joined: 22.09.2006

Thx Boomer :heart:


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Vigpoe
Joined: 04.12.2009

Help me very much Boomer. You helped me a lot.


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