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ciachooooo
Joined: 02.01.2010

he is reg, 26/22, total 3b 10%, big winner

48% bvb open
cbet oop: 65/53/35

afq 52/42/24

when skipped cb turn x/f 55, x/c 33, x/r 12
when skipped cb riv x/f 65, x/c 31, x/r 5

b/f turn 41%, b/f riv 50% (18)

wtsd 31, wwsf 52

one relevant note here: with AJ opened bvb against hero, and x/c 3 times on JTxxx (so maybe he is more bluffheavy, and he plays more strong holdings passivly vs hero)

what is your plan starting from turn? maybe you raise turn? or would you bluff if he checks to you? this seems like board where he should x/c a lot then river bricks...

so maybe you xbeh riv having A high?

$0.50/$1 No Limit Holdem
3 Players
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Stacks:
BTN Player1 ($58.55) 59bb
SB Player4 ($100) 100bb
BB ciachooooo ($119.66) 120bb

Pre-Flop: ($1.50, 3 players) ciachooooo is BB A♥ 6♥
Player1 folds, Player4 raises to $3, ciachooooo calls $2

Flop: 10:diamond: 9♥ Q♥ ($6, 2 players)
Player4 bets $5, ciachooooo calls $5

Turn: 2♣ ($16, 2 players)
Player4 bets $13, ciachooooo calls $13

River: 8♠ ($42, 2 players)
Player4 bets $30, $30 to ciachooooo ($98.66)?


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey ciachooooo,

I think hand can work fine in both turn raising range and flatting range. However, raising is more of an exploitative play and less effective vs a good opponent potentially since you likely raise all legit made hands on the flop.

For this reason would just flat turn vs good opponent since it's a brick and your range can easily be capped to mid-strength hands + draws. Vs check would bluff anyway.

On river would bet vs check. Vs river 3barrel you presumably do want some bluff shoving range to balance QJ type stuff you may call 2 streets with so would either fold river or bluff shove.


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duder1n0
Joined: 07.07.2009

Originally posted by w34z3l
Vs river 3barrel you presumably do want some bluff shoving range to balance QJ type stuff you may call 2 streets with

Is it a good card for bluffing? We only block AJ, but block his busted draws a lot (although we beat them anyway).

Maybe hands like KT/AT/KQ would be better to shove, where we block some of his possible Jx combos (JT/QJ/KJ)? I guess he would fold his sets/twopairs anyway, if he happens to valuebet them thin, cause we can have easily have Jx in our perceived range.

I dont really have experience in river bluffshoves, so would be interested what hands would you choose from Hero's range.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by duder1n0
Maybe hands like KT/AT/KQ would be better to shove, where we block some of his possible Jx combos (JT/QJ/KJ)?.

Yeah, undoubtedly. I agree with this. We should put these hands in our range before busted flush-draws theoretically.

It's partly going to depend on how many Jx our hero has in his river range. We likely still want more value hands than bluffs though. The exact ratio should depend on our river sizing or vice-versa at least in a GTO sense. Probably doesn't include Axs.

Still could be a shove from an exploitative point of view though. If our opponent is folding too much we can expand our bluff range to wider than GTO optimal.


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