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Valle1979
Joined: 23.08.2008

I've just entered a sit'ngo tournament with 27 people at pokerstars, and i get this starting hand, everything turned out good, but im still thinking if i should have backed off after the flop, since the bidding really started going up and a flush draw appeared. Well comments are really appreciated, heres my hand.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $5.00+$0.50 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Button (t1500)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
Hero (CO) (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J♦, J♥
1 fold, UTG+1 calls t20, 1 fold, MP2 calls t20, 1 fold, Hero raises to t100, 2 folds, BB raises to t200, UTG+1 calls t180, 1 fold, Hero calls t100

Flop: (t630) 4♠, 7♠, J♠ (3 players)
BB bets t200, UTG+1 raises to t480, Hero calls t480, BB calls t280

Turn: (t2070) A♦ (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets t820 (All-In), Hero calls t820 (All-In), BB calls t820 (All-In)

River: (t4530) 2♥ (3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: t4530
Main pot: t4530 between BB, UTG+1 and Hero, won by Hero

Results in green below:
BB had 3♥, A♥ (one pair, Aces).
UTG+1 had 7♦, 7♣ (three of a kind, sevens).
Hero had J♦, J♥ (three of a kind, Jacks).
Outcome: Hero won t4530


4 replies

Tough spot, however, I think it is unlikely that someone has a flush already due to te betting patterns preflop (a reraise and a cold call usually indicate high-middle pairs and a couple of high cards such as AK, maybe even KQ or lower). Keeping this in mind, I don't like your flop play, you have a top set and a made flush is unlikely so you really do not want to see another spade and I think for this reason you should push the flop.


xponentx
Joined: 11.02.2008

I'd have re-raised preflop easy. It's early in the tourney and you have a good but not unbeatable hand. You want to make them pay to see the flop when you have a big pocket pair. Personally i'd be happy to take the pot down without seeing the flop, but with even stacks it's probably safe to raise to 600. Or you could just shove it, but I wouldn't be keen to get all my chips in that early with a hand like JJ.

As played, i'd say it's an easy shove on the flop, you have top set, and you definately want to protect against a flushdraw. Unless you really do come up against a made flush, the shove should scare off anyone drawing to a low/mid flush (even if you do come up against a made flush, you still have outs).


Hlynkinn
Joined: 14.06.2008

I like the preflop pay.

But you need to push the flop... So many hands your winning are going to call.
BB I would be putting him on a big ace or a big pocket pair ( ofcourse I'm wrong but look how he played :) ) and with you hitting your set your going to get paid against most of those hands if you push... if he has QQ KK AA he's calling if he has Ax and one of the cards is a spade he's calling...

And you see all that action going on on the flop so I don't see a reason why not to push the flop... Your gonna get some worse hands to call you... And if you get unlucky and they have a flush... You still have few outs to make quads or a full house :)

So I'm going broke on the flop...

Also another reason why you should push on the flop and not to call is because of the squeese situation.. After you call dudes bet the original flop raiser has still to act... So I think pushing is always right here...

Some of the hand judges probably going to tell you something different... lol
But atleast this was my try :)


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi,

I like how you played this preflop. Even though it's MTT, 4betting simply turns JJ into a bluff. On the flop we have to shove it all-in.