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[Closed] 50c/$1 FR : Do i fire turn vs two villians?

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Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Limit Hold'em - 10 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is CO with T♣ T♥
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, 2 folds, MP3 calls, Hero raises, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls

Flop: (7.5 SB) K♥ 6♦ 2♠ (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls

Turn: (5.25 BB) 9♣ (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks

River: (5.25 BB) J♣ (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks

VPIP/PFR/TAF/WTSD%/Hands
MP3: 28/10/0.8/41/711
UTG2: 40/0/0.1/48/105

So i am thinking agaisnt two villains both with 40+ WTSD% i should fire this turn for value right ? What is my play on river ? Also when agaisnt two villians would i not bet here?


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in position i think i would bet this turn in hopes to get an ace or gutshot to fold, and i would check behind the river on any card except a 10.


Thanks for reply MP87. I suspect the same as u that betting here is prob right. Would like to hear the opinions of a hand judge also.

Here is another hand which feels very similar except this time wit the 3-bet flop preflop maybe the ranges are tighter and maybe the turn check here is good. Altho perhaps firing the turned flush card i can get a weak Q to fold and get value against the guys chasing 4-card flushes ?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Limit Hold'em - 10 players
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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is BTN with 9♠ 9♣
5 folds, MP3 raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, MP3 calls

Flop: (9.5 SB) Q♥ 5♠ 7♠ (3 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, BB calls, MP3 calls

Turn: (6.25 BB) 6♠ (3 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks

River: (6.25 BB) 2♠ (3 players)
BB checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks

VPIP/PFR/TAF/WTSD%/Hands

BB: 56/0/0.1/41/100
MP3: 26/9/0.6/29/250


Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 Limit Hold'em - 10 players
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Pre Flop: (1.5 SB) Hero is MP1 with T♦ T♥
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, Hero raises, 6 folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls

Flop: (7.5 SB) 7♣ K♠ 3♠ (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls

Turn: (5.25 BB) 5♣ (3 players)
UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises, Hero calls

River: (9.25 BB) 7♥ (2 players)
UTG+2 bets, Hero calls

UTG1: 57/3/0.4/10/33
UTG2: 38/6/0.3/35/98

Again sitting with an effective 2nd pair in my hand in postiion against two villians.

Is my turn bet good ? Then is the call down ok ?


Hi Evilpopcorn,

I'll numerate the hands from top to bottom with 1-3). :)

1) Yes bet turn turn again. You have a vvaluebet against weaker pairs. You can't be sure that noone has a K but that isn't sop important as you get more value than you lose on average. The river is close but I tend to bet again. Could be a bit too much. This depends on how good you know them. If they are really able to call with a 6 and 2 again then you should bet.

2) Hmm this is close. You won't get a better hand to fold but you have to protect against a better flushdraw. I don't mind checking behind here as a check/raise would be very ugly and a flushdraw is not the most likely hand here.
On the river however you have another valuebet against a Q, a twopair, a worse flush or straight.

3) The turnbet is good. However they are both (low samplesize but 100 hands should be fine to see that his AF will be lower than the one from a TAG or so) very passive so I like a fold more here. He is check/raising a 3-way turn and you showed some strength with your bets.


1) So just based on both villian WTSD% i should play bet/fold on river ?

2) River i am also palying bet/fold ?

3) So just fold to the 3-bet from the passive oppoennt on turn ?


1) If their fold to riverbet value is low then yes. If not then it's closer and I like a check behind more.

2) I wouldn't fold here as it's very often a bluff as a flushdraw would fear a check behind and donkbet into you.

3) Yes.