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JQo 3b vs bu

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mlatasrb
Joined: 01.04.2012

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 109.14 BB (VPIP: 22.92, PFR: 14.06, 3Bet Preflop: 3.70, Hands: 201)
Hero (SB): 101.92 BB
BB: 110.94 BB (VPIP: 34.36, PFR: 25.77, 3Bet Preflop: 8.62, Hands: 168)
UTG: 76.04 BB (VPIP: 25.81, PFR: 19.35, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, Hands: 31)
MP: 50.5 BB (VPIP: 18.88, PFR: 16.98, 3Bet Preflop: 7.44, Hands: 1,616)
CO: 113.36 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 4)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♥ J♣

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 8.5 BB, fold, BTN calls 6 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 8♣ 9♥ A♣
Hero bets 11 BB, BTN calls 11 BB

Turn: (40 BB, 2 players) 9♣
Hero bets 25 BB, BTN calls 25 BB

River: (90 BB, 2 players) 2♣
Hero bets 16 BB, BTN calls 16 BB

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Hero shows Q♥ J♣ (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 39%, Flop 16%, Turn 25%)
BTN mucks T♦ A♦ (Two Pair, Aces and Nines) (Pre 61%, Flop 84%, Turn 75%)
Hero wins 117 BB

Is it a bad hand to 3bet? bb is aggro so I didnt like calling.

Is bet flop and turn ok? River? I thought If I shove I get called by stronger mostly and If I c/c still stronger, and if I c/f it is too weak.


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Hi mla

Are you 3-betting depolarized here? Is villain calling a super wide range? I don't like 3-betting these hands unless we do it for value and i can't see stats that tell us we can do it for value

As played I think the board is a check/fold often (but again depends on what range we expect him to take postflop and what we expect him to do).

Once you bet the flop what's your plan for the turn/river if you hit or don't hit. It looks to me like spew to bet the 9 where nothing better really folds and even on most rivers you can't get better to fold.


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mlatasrb
Joined: 01.04.2012

This guy or 67% from BU, and total fold vs 3bet was 1/7 times, so he looks fishy, and since his range is wide from BU, I expected either FE or that he calls with worse (not sure, probably marginal).
He folded on flop 1/1 time vs cbet, so at least he is capable of folding on flop.

I 3bet vs BU, TT+, AJ+, KQ (sometimes call AJ, AQ, KQ), also suited gappers and A2s-A5s.

hands like QJ I 3bet mostly from SB if bb is aggro, and if BU folds vs 3bet > 60%.

Why is turn so bad? he could float flop with bdfd, or 2nd pairs and fold them on turn, and also I have GS and fd.


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A good portion of his 2nd pairs will have a redraw or trips now so I don't you get that many folds. Plus he still has a good amount of Ax hands.

So really I don't think you have the FE you think you do. We still have our gutshot and weak flushdraw but that doesn't add too much equity.


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