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KK on 432, Q, K

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ronekinky
Joined: 25.04.2008

This was late stages in the sunday spark. Villain was unknown but looked very tight and maybe a bit passive. Should we ever fold in a spot like that? I cant make up my mind on this one. Since villain should only raise straights or flushes it feels like we will be behind a good % of the time here.. i should probably have bet turn?

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I dont know why villains stats arent showing up but they where ~15vpip, 10 pfr, 1,0 af after 20 hands

PokerStars - $0.91+$0.09|75000/150000 Ante 15000 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 1,607,850 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP+1: 1,728,422 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
CO: 1,097,728 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.62, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 55)
BTN: 4,138,938
SB: 1,802,544 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: 3,226,368 (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 33)
UTG: 1,439,210 (VPIP: 21.21, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
UTG+1: 3,302,621 (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 26.09, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 23)
Hero (UTG+2): 4,860,212

9 players post ante of 15,000, SB posts SB 75,000, BB posts BB 150,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 360,000) Hero has K♣ K♦

fold, fold, Hero raises to 300,000, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 300,000, fold, BB calls 150,000

Flop: (1,110,000, 3 players) 4♣ 3♣ 2♥
BB checks, Hero bets 375,055, BTN calls 375,055, fold

Turn: (1,860,110, 2 players) Q♥
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (1,860,110, 2 players) K♥
Hero bets 588,880, BTN raises to 2,400,000, fold


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AceSteph
Joined: 31.03.2010

I'm always betting turn for value. There's a ton of value out there, two FDs, Qx, that floated, every pp will still pay, so it's a bet for sure.

River is sick... If he's tight and passive, he won't have any straights here, so it's a backdoor flush, or a badly played KQ, or flop set. But I think with these he raises smaller, so I can justify a fold here.

Sorry, since we are micro stakes and villain is basically unknown I think calling with top set is a little better. There are so many studid moves on micro stakes and your line just looks really weak.


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

C/rai seems reasonable on the turn. Gets more in against the pocketpairs that will want to protect, but have a lot of bad river cards for their hand.

River agreed with AceSteph, I can't fold here at micros given the amount of random moves we see.


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