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miropro
Joined: 01.08.2008

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

MP3: $2.18 (109 bb)
CO: $2.17 (108.5 bb)
BTN: $1.47 (73.5 bb)
Hero (SB): $2.01 (100.5 bb)
BB: $2 (100 bb)
UTG+2: $2.21 (110.5 bb)
MP1: $1.74 (87 bb)
MP2: $0.83 (41.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J J
UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.04, 2 folds, CO calls $0.04, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.03, BB folds

Flop: ($0.14) 3 7 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.14, MP1 folds, CO raises to $0.28, Hero raises to $0.42, CO raises to $0.56, Hero calls $0.14

Turn: ($1.26) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.57 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$1.26 pot ($0.04 rake)
Final Board: 3 7 2 5
CO mucked and won $1.22 ($0.62 net)
Hero mucked J J and lost (-$0.60 net)

villain is a LAG (small dice icon in HM2 )


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

hi

i am not going to evaluate this hand (at least not yet, or maybe someone else will, i don't mind), but i think that it's more important to improve your thought process rather than just say "you should do this".

so, could you explain what is your reasoning behind your flop and turn play? which kind of hands do you think that CO could have?


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pelbonek
Joined: 16.02.2011

Im not gonna say anything about postflop till he's given his reasoning, but preflop I would highly recommend 3bet squeezing this hand. You cant just let them see the flop so cheap. You have to protect your hand, you dont want to be in a multiway pot with JJ.


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miropro
Joined: 01.08.2008

At that moment I was playing 16 tables, trying to avoid difficult decisions, fold was easiest option for me.
Flop was bet for value and protection but after I got reraised wanted to check his strenght, now I see that I should have put more in that 3bet (60-75c)
to make him fold and fold if I he shoves.
At spots like this I usually assume that villain hit his set and I fold.
Considering he was LAG he could have anything, flat call preflop could possibly been made with small PP and that huge bet was made to protect the pot from flush draw that I could possibly have.
But from the other hand there is also possibility that it was a bluff, thought that he beat me on the flop and represent straight that is protecting from flush.
It would have been ridiculous if he made that bet on flop with 46 and any flush draw would have sense to go all in on the flop, not turn, if he wanted to go all in with it.
Last three times I made a call like this it was a set, xxxx it, I'm folding

Something like that was passing through my head then

So we have left 88-TT- he would probably 3-bet that minraise with those PP or AQ/AK and betting line doesnt fit with Ax
But this is NL2 and he could easily do all of that with air

set 80%, bluff 10% other 10% so fold

Oh yes, there is a saying for microlimits- if you are not sure and get raised - fold


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miropro
Joined: 01.08.2008

Originally posted by pelbonek
Im not gonna say anything about postflop till he's given his reasoning, but preflop I would highly recommend 3bet squeezing this hand. You cant just let them see the flop so cheap. You have to protect your hand, you dont want to be in a multiway pot with JJ.

Agree with that 70%, would have raised from the button(16c), but it was automatic call from SB


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Hi miropro

preflop: Definitely 3-bet this here

Postflop: while the donk is fine i think that once you get 4-bet you should be out of the hand, especially from CO. And I would 3-bet larger as well, no point in min 3-betting him as it achieves nothing.

Also, why are you playing 16 tables instead of concentrating on playing better and moving up ASAP?


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miropro
Joined: 01.08.2008

Playing so many tables because NL2 is fairly easy to beat.
Cant say that return to poker after 3 years is easy.
Yes, this mistake with jj is made because I was playing so many tables - saw there was a raise, pressed call button automaticaly because I didn't see it was 4c not 6. Wouldn't have reraised 6 from SB, check, raise would be the line, if reraised on flop - fold.
I mean it is 5am here and I am pissed because of this hand.
And I could move up soon if you ask my bankroll but I dont feel ready for NL5 yet, probably next week if I manage to keep out of tilt zone.
And thanks for advice, 16 tables is realy many when you have to make difficult decisions. On next limit will play 6-9 and pay more attention to my oponents then I do now. And will play more loose, 12/8 now on 30k hands.
Could start a blog though


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12/8 is definitely tight. Drop the number of tables and concentrate on the game. Learn from your mistakes, like this hand, and try to move on.


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