[Closed] NL50 KQo decision versus UTG limp 3better.

Above all: Make a note of these guys since your reads become more valuable than 20/2 for example (Limp/Raise = limp thus VPIP)

Pot odds
$1.5+$9.25+$30)x0.95 :: $6.25
14)x0.95 :: $6.25
13.3 :: $6.25
2.12:1
=
31.9%

With KQo against a 3% range, you need 25.3% to be +EV
against a 4.7% (TT+,AQ+) range, you need 27.6
against you need 7.5% (99+,AJ+,KQ+) you need 33.8%

So only when you give him a 7% range, you are +EV but then from a realistic point of view: I would give him a 4.7% range or even worser for you: JJ+, AK

Therefore I just fold KQ, it is a mediocre holding after all

I'm going to expand on this a bit more. Imagining we have some reads on the opponent.

Btw, thanks for putting the calculations in Gerv. Before i always tried to post the information i worked out in my head whilst playing the hand, but from now on I'll put all the more precise calculations into the posts.

Now for my sample situations for reads on the opponent (All other factors remain constant, in both his early vpip is 10);

a) In this situation, we know that the opponent likes to play his absolute monsters passively and raise the hands which are not so good. Lets estimate his ranges;

Limp/3bet - 4.5% of his hands. We need 31.9% equity so we can call with KQs+ and 88+ (pokerstove)

Raise - 4.5% to 6.5% of his hands. We can 3bet AK+ and many pocket pairs.

Limp/Call or Limp/Fold - 6.5% to 10% of his hands. We are often strong enough to cbet flop all-in.

b) In this situation, we have a factor that may tip the odds in our favour. We have a read that the opponent likes to raise his absolute monsters and 3bet a loose range than this. Let us give him a sample range;

Raise - 2% of hands - We may well only want to 3bet KK+ But QQ+ may be feasable also.

Limp/3bet - 2% to 6.5% of hands - Now we have 36.6% equity against this range so we can call! Range;

Limp/Call - Again we likely have a strong enough hand to cbet push flop.

Hope that made sense. Two possible situations where reads are important. Note that these are both different to the original sample hand were we do not thinkg about him raising in UTG!

edit; also please take into account that i still often like a fold with KQ. I won't necessarily be calling it.

Hi daphunk,

I would call it here make a note and then evaluate later situations, you get great odds. Many people do this with any limped pocket.

Cheers ysessa, i like the sound of that plan.