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[Closed] Slowplaying AA

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RockEye
Joined: 12.08.2008

Gah this happened to me when i was only 8 places from ITM..

No-Limit Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

CO (t14.060)
Button (t7.790)
SB (t14.836)
Hero (t8.960)
UTG (t1.780)
UTG+1 (t12.757)
MP1 (t16.205)
MP2 (t20.164)
MP3 (t16.152)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Ah, Qh.
3 folds, MP2 calls t800, 4 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (t2000) 2d, 8d, 9h (2 players)
Hero bets t1.2, MP2 calls t1.20.

Turn: (t2002.40) Qd (2 players)
Hero bets t2, MP2 calls t2.

River: (t2006.40) 8c (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets t6.4, Hero calls t4.96 (All-In).

Final Pot: t2017.76

Results in white below:
Hero has Ah Qh (two pair, queens and eights).
MP2 has As Ad (two pair, aces and eights).
Outcome: MP2 wins t2017.75.


9 replies

Eh what ? You miss the flop and still decided to bet against him (wtf?) check/fold it right there. Also you shoul've raised AQ pref from this position.
On turn you hit your queen, and flush hits the board missing you completly. He may jelly well have it now, you know nothing about his hand. He may also have trips here because he just limped pref. I can't really figure out what hands you beat here and would call your bet so you are looking to end this hand right here at best.
But what hands will fold to bet here ? Trash would fold on floop, so he got something there (bet was small, he may have played flushdraw) and all other hands that he may have got you beat (i really really doubt that he got pair of nines or eights here), so he will just call/reraise here (you wouldn't bet on the flop and then pot-sized bet on turn if you had flush so he know that you don't have it) so i wouldn't bet here, just check/fold.
River comes with another 8 pairing the board and givin another holding hand better than yours. You check and he overbets the pot, for me this is very easy fold, you can't really beat anything that would justify his play.


RockEye
Joined: 12.08.2008

I've had enough bad beats holding AQ so i decided to see the flop cheap. I bet on the flop to try to scare him, cause i've put him on small pair or something and hoped he'd fold because of flush draw. Ok he checks flop, on a turn i hit a top pair, i bet here, cause i figured that he coulnd't hold a Q. He checks again, maybe he is waiting for flush. Imo i should fold when he bets the river. Yea a mistake was i pushed allin.


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Converter seems broken. We should raise this hand preflop regardless of our history with it, simply because it is a good hand.

On the flop we should check/fold. This type of board hits so many hands (that is, so many hands will call or raise us on this board) so it is absolutely horrible for a bluff if we don't have a strong hand ourselves.

On the turn, No idea how much you bet here, but a reasonable-sized bet and folding to a raise is best here, because so many draws (JT, flushdraws) got there on the turn.

No idea what size the pot is on the river, but a check/call is probably best.


Converter is not broken but it shows in K, so ie 1.2 is 1200


viewer88
Joined: 19.04.2008

push preflop with 10BB?


I wouldn't do that, with m above 5, you still got some space for manuvering.


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

My bad everyone. We should indeed push this hand preflop straight away.

Also, as played... we should shove the river. With only 2/3 potsize bet left, if we check:

1. no one is bluffing
2. worse hands are calling a shove.
3. some worse hands check behind.
4. better hands are shoving, and we still have to call..


RockEye
Joined: 12.08.2008

Hmm all the same if i'd push preflop, no one would fold AA i guess. I'd still loose anyway. But i tend to play MTTs a bit more carefull, so i decided to check the flop cheap.


chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

no one would fold AA, but they'd call with worse hands like AJ, AT, etc etc. KQ, QJ, that you're way ahead of . And maybe they fold some hands that you're a flip against... In any case pushing preflop with your stack is the most profitable option.