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PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players

BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.95, PFR: 11.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 61)
CO: 117.18 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17) 3 tables

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♠ 4♣

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, BB raises to 7.5 BB, Hero raises to 20 BB, BB calls 12.5 BB

They 3bet wide here (definitely wider than @ NL25) so I use this one as a hand with blocker and 4bet bluff. I think he may call smth like 99+, AQ+, maybe AJs, ATs, some other suited hands like KQs, QJs.

Flop: (40.5 BB, 2 players) 9♦ Q♥ 3♦
BB checks, Hero checks

Doubt pairs will fold, Q is there, JTs (if he has them) won't wold. Folding here.

Turn: (40.5 BB, 2 players) 4♠
BB checks, Hero checks

Now I beat at least higher aces, I doubt pairs will fold and I can't use this one to bet for value.

River: (40.5 BB, 2 players) 6♣
BB bets 27.5 BB, Hero ?

He may decide to take the pot down with high cards to fold the same of mine, so instead of split pot he will win. He may probably vbet TT, JJ here to get some hero call but sizing is somewhat big. He may have some TPs here and not bet them flop & turn out of fear to scare me.

So: 1) is it ok to 4bet this preflop vs multitablers? 2) call or fold river?


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Hi GreenPiece

Preflop: Your 4-bet is a bit on the big side given the open+3bet size and you have to be careful that people will call more 4-bets in spots like this where SPR is better (due to either stack sizes or raise sizes). So if you see a lot more calls have more playable hands or depolarize your range.

Postflop: As played giving up is fine.


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So my logic is not flawless, I see... Can you please give a simple guideline on how to avoid these situations? My thinking on the river should be: oh, he has a very strong range by calling 4bet OOP, I must be very careful and with low pair I still beat only some of hands. Smth like this, right?


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dannywratten
Joined: 11.05.2010

I don't think I would 4bet a 17/12 guy without a 3b sample.
Rather fold until i have some more info otherwise you get into a lot of these situations


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Sample is very low, imo we can't rely on it here. It's not smth I usually do with A4o, I usually fold and now decided to experiment a bit. Cause these situations @ NL25 and @ NL50 are a bit different so now I want to get the best readless approach vs multitablers at this very limit because imo things are more simple @ NL25 where I came from.


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Originally posted by GreenPiece
So my logic is not flawless, I see... Can you please give a simple guideline on how to avoid these situations? My thinking on the river should be: oh, he has a very strong range by calling 4bet OOP, I must be very careful and with low pair I still beat only some of hands. Smth like this, right?

The first way to avoid these spots is to have a pre-built range for scenarios like this (for 4-bet pots). Also the raise size is important.

And if you get called the best thing to do is not spew there which is very easy to do ( a lot of people level themselves into thinking that they absolutely need to bluff their stack away once their 4-bet gets called).


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