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5NL AJo 3 bets min raise

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ChangNoi77
Joined: 27.06.2012

Poker Stars, $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $5.16 (103.2 bb)
Hero (SB): $6.07 (121.4 bb)
BB: $3 (60 bb)
UTG+1: $4.34 (86.8 bb)
UTG+2: $2.72 (54.4 bb)
MP1: $10 (200 bb)
MP2: $2.57 (51.4 bb)
MP3: $3.11 (62.2 bb)
CO: $17.04 (340.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J A
4 folds, MP3 raises to $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, BB calls $0.35, MP3 calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.20) 3 A 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.40, MP3 folds, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($2) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.85, Hero calls $0.85

River: ($3.70) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.35 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.35

Results:

Spoiler

$6.40 pot ($0.27 rake)
Final Board: 3 A 6 Q 3
Hero showed J A and lost (-$3 net)
BB showed Q Q and won $6.13 ($3.13 net)

Both villains unknown but not full stacked

I 3 bet as min raises are generally weak, even though I know after one of your replies yesterday that my hand choice is not ideal. I assume he can call with worse though even if I am going to end up in a sticky spot post flop fairly often.

What can you tell me about my std calling and 3 bet ranges vs min raises from potentially bad players?

As played I see my hand as medium SD value and was worried to raise the flop.

River is nasty as I only need to be good 21%


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey ChangNoi77,

Flatting preflop is fine vs a min-raise. Sometimes it's necessary to 3bet hands that don't play well OOP though in order to 3bet with the required frequency. I have no issues with just flatting here and I think it's a slightly better option. 3betting will likely still be +EV though.

Flop x/c is fine, we can still cbet for value on this texture though vs unknown fish.

Turn x/c is fine.

If villain had more in his stack I would fold river. Even now it's close. We are getting an excellent price though so it's not a big issue to call even if we expect to lose the majority of the time.

As for standard preflop ranges, it firstly depends on sizing and whether we are IP/OOP. Vs min-raises we should defend a lot more frequently. OOP our default strategy should tend toward calling the high card hands that dominate our opponents opening range and 3betting speculative hands that allow us to stay aggressive postflop with the highest frequency. Vs many fish we can cut out the value hands and stick to a depolarized 3betting strategy. So the playability of this hand is not necessarily bad if we are happy betting multiple streets postflop when we flop our A or J because opponent is a calling station and has a wide range.


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