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$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Holdem
Prima
5 Players
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Stacks:
UTG Player 5 ($50) 100bb
CO Player 6 ($50) 100bb
BTN Player 2 ($94.89) 190bb
SB Ovy71 ($62.70) 125bb
BB Player 4 ($50) 100bb

Pre-Flop: ($0.75, 5 players) Ovy71 is SB Q♣ 9♣
3 folds, Ovy71 raises to $1.50, Player 4 calls $1

Flop: 7♣ A♦ 3♦ ($2.50, 2 players)
Ovy71 bets $1.75, Player 4 calls $1.75

Turn: 2♦ ($6, 2 players)
Ovy71 checks, Player 4 bets $4, Ovy71 raises to $13, Player 4 calls $9

River: J♥ ($28, 2 players)
Ovy71 checks, Player 4 checks

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Final Pot: $28 Ovy71 shows Q♣ 9♣ Player 4 shows A♥ 5♥

maybe is not the best spot to bluff given our hand...but my question is...if we raise the turn is it better to bet the river as well? or when he calls the turn ( that sizing) he is not folding river?

what would you do on the turn with a Ax TP? its a fold or its a call one street or calldown?


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oblioo
Joined: 02.10.2012
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Originally posted by Ovy71
maybe is not the best spot to bluff given our hand...

No offense but this is a huge understatement--definitely just give up on this turn ainec.

Originally posted by Ovy71
if we raise the turn is it better to bet the river as well? or when he calls the turn ( that sizing) he is not folding river?

No, don't bluff the river; villain's range largely consists of flushes and sets, and you don't block anything.

Originally posted by Ovy71
what would you do on the turn with a Ax TP? its a fold or its a call one street or calldown?

Any Ax that is strong enough to cbet flop with is probably c/c turn, and then probably c/c river only when you have a strong diamond blocker (i.e. AxKd, AxQd, AxJd AxTd).


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+1 to what Oblioo said.

Your bluff makes no sense on the turn and you lack any equity whatsoever (so you need even more FE).

And on the river what can he really fold that called turn aside from some random KdX?


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what i mean to say with Ax in villain position...if we are in the BB and we face a big X/R on the turn? do we call or do we fold? if we call its a calldown or a fold on the river?


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Given that the 2 is a fairly blank card (aside from the flush) what can you represent?

Put yourself in his shoes. If someone took t his like what would they rep? Wouldn't you expect most flushes to keep betting the turn since they have plenty of value and don't want villain to pot control?


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yes , a normal line here with a flush is bet bet bet....but i think its good to add some tricky lines BvB and by betting flop and checking turn it looks like i have air and i have done a stab at the pot and that's it. He can bet all his floats and i make extra money.


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Sure, but without history I doubt you can get away with pure bluffs that have 0 equity here.

Start by raising for value or some strong draws at least and see how they react .


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