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I played a 30 pound MTT yesterday. Total 50 players.

We were down to 4 players. Total chips in play 700,000.

I had 160,000.

Person to my immediate left had 110,000,

Person to my right had around 330,000.

The other player had 100,000.

The prize structure was:

First prize 560 pounds

Second: 400 pounds

Third: 180 pounds

Fourth: 150 pounds

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The dynamics on the table where such that the big stack would limp UG with around 50% of the range he would call a shove. I put him on 50% of A9+.

The player to my left was very passive and donked pot sized bets with third and second pairs. I knew I would double up with TP no kicker most of the times.

The player on my left +1 needs to finish 3rd or better to win a tournament ticket worth 220 pounds adding more equity to his folds.

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Hand:

I am on the btn and UG limps. I play 15bb deep.

I have Q :spade: 8 :spade: and I decide to limp. (should I still be playing shove/fold here given the dynamics above?).

Everybody calls.

Pot= 44,000.

Flop: A :spade: 9 :spade: T :club:

UG raises to 60,000 and is essentially pot commited.

I know he always has an Ace or two pair there.

I have 45.85% equity in the hand against his ATo-A2o,T9o range.

Given the price structure should this be a shove or a fold?


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Asaban
Joined: 22.09.2006

Hey elchipriota =)

I will move your hand to our hand evaluation forum.

Regards,
Asaban


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

What r blinds?
Only one guy is winning 220£ ticket or all #3-#1 will win 220£ ticket?

If I got it right villain over bet pot on flop into 3 players? Fold
Btw with ur reads fold preflop... If all #3-#1 win 220£ ticket fold preflop... If not i'll probaly shove this hand like 60% of time


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letmewinplz8
Joined: 15.05.2010

Might be wrong but i think this will be £30 mtt with seats added. 25:25 seats am i right OP? ;)

Not loving shoving over with 15bb with Q8s tbh tho I would probably fold (I think the seats added to top 3 places assuming this is what is going off makes enough of a diff for us to be a bit tighter and prefer to go first in not vs this guy who limp/calls a fair amt)


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Hi,

Imo pot can be only 44k if blinds are 5/10k with 1k ante.
With 16bb limping is fine on the BU. Shove seems too big and if players are passive they would also limp with worse hands.

Imo postflop you can´t make wrong decision. if you think you can outplay them then folding is fine, if you feel pot committed then shove is fine.
You likely find better spots where to put your money in with 46% (especially if they don´t only play shove/fold play with 10-11bb)

best regards,


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Thank you for your replies guys.

Let me specify that: blinds were 5k/10k with 1k ante.

Only the guy on the BB can win the seat IF he finishes third or better in order to win the monthly league by accumulating enough points!


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Vs such a wide limp range no doubt shoving is profitable. Limping is more profitable.

However the most profitable option is to make it 2.5 or so bb here, folding to a shove from UTG (his traps), taking the initiative, and kicking out the blinds so we get it heads up.

As played: we are very risk averse against our opponent, and it doesn't look like he's folding. We should fold.


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