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Alleen86
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20.04.2014, 14:32

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BB: $12.57 (125.7 bb)
CO: $10 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $14.84 (148.4 bb)
SB: $4 (40 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K T
CO raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.80, 2 folds, CO calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.75) 8 2 T (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $0.90, CO raises to $2.67, Hero calls $1.77

Turn: ($7.09) 4 (2 players)
CO bets $6.53 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.53

River: ($20.15) Q (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Preflop: The CO is loose and folds alot to 3bets, so decided to 3b bluff KTo.

Flop: Hit TP and decided to cbet. Believe I don't need to cbet large because it was a 3bet pot. When he decided to raise, I know that he is capable of bluffing with overcards/draws, so decided to call.

Turn: [EDITED] According to my assumtions on the flop, decided to call this blank on the turn. I think he has many bluffs there.

CO: 25/21/22/92(12)/25/3,5/895 (VPIP/PFR/CO_RFI/OOP_Ft3B/Flop_CH_R/AF/H)


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20.04.2014, 15:30

Why are you talking about some Q and his range if turn is pure blank?
Why no info about his x/r tendencies?


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Alleen86
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20.04.2014, 18:52

Originally posted by gAsheks
Why are you talking about some Q and his range if turn is pure blank?
Why no info about his x/r tendencies?

Seems I totally mixed up the hand. I knew that I had a reason to call his bet, but mixed the turn and river while analysing the hand afterwards..

Basically, I called his turn bet because it didn't make sense to me that he has a better hand.. He check/raised the flop once in four cases.


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21.04.2014, 22:32

All ok but turn fold


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bennisboy
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22.04.2014, 11:29

I think against that amount of aggro, you need to fold turn. You only have a weak top pair, I think it is very high variance play to call here.

Stinks of a set tbh


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22.04.2014, 13:27

Originally posted by bennisboy
I think against that amount of aggro, you need to fold turn. You only have a weak top pair, I think it is very high variance play to call here.

Stinks of a set tbh

You're right, in both. During the hand it looked like no sense to me he called the 3bet with 88 or 22 preflop oop (just one combination of TT). In reality he had 88.


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22.04.2014, 15:06

Yeah, his PF call was just about on the edge of being in line with "call 20", you raised by 0.50 and at that point you were playing with 9.70 effective stat. So really it is not that bad from him PF.

I also think (and often fail this myself), that even if it makes very little sense that people would have called the 3b with a PP, if they are going mad like this, you are most likely beat.


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22.04.2014, 15:16


@ bennisboy/goldenbode: seems a bit silly to call the flop raise only to fold the world's blankest turn?


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bennisboy
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22.04.2014, 15:34

Originally posted by MJPerry

@ bennisboy/goldenbode: seems a bit silly to call the flop raise only to fold the world's blankest turn?

It's still money saved if you change your mind about being ahead/behind.

I is still a 60BB bet on the turn, no reason that you HAVE to call once calling the flop. Villains can easily try to take you off your Cbet, but I think the size of the bet on the flop and lead out on the turn mean a pair of tens is almost never good here without a huge read


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