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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

partypoker - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 101.5 BB (VPIP: 18.72, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 4.46, Hands: 383)
SB: 236.18 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
BB: 310.46 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 6.06, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 33)
UTG: 399.34 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 18.18, Hands: 36)
MP: 286.82 BB (VPIP: 24.44, PFR: 17.33, 3Bet Preflop: 7.79, Hands: 1,876)
Hero (CO): 147.86 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♠ 8♠

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, SB calls 1.5 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 3 players) A♠ 7♠ 4♠
SB bets 4 BB, fold, Hero raises to 14 BB, SB calls 10 BB

Turn: (34 BB, 2 players) 3♦
SB checks, Hero bets 29 BB, SB calls 29 BB

River: (92 BB, 2 players) 8♦
SB checks, Hero bets 102.86 BB and is all-in, SB calls 102.86 BB

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SB shows 4♣ 4♦ (Three of a Kind, Fours) (Pre 50%, Flop 34%, Turn 23%)
Hero shows Q♠ 8♠ (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 50%, Flop 66%, Turn 77%)
Hero wins 291.72 BB

is overbet max EV? I guess I should riase larger flop and I wouldnt need to overbet river, but I am not sure if it is better that way or to overbet river because he might feel committed after investing money?

Also this is the board where I dont need to protect so much.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey GingerKid,

Preflop is ok.

Flop raise vs SB lead multi-way is fine, we are committed even with the slightly deeper stacks.

Turn bet is fine. Opponent gets better implied odds with any of his sets due to the stack depth here so would definitely bet on the large side.

River shove is fine. Opponent may have some nut flush draws - but he's probably folding these regardless of our sizing.


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

Hi,

How would you play sets, 2 pairs, TPTK, TPGK with fd vs him? Do you raise any street, or just call down, and bet if checked?

If you dont raise some of those categories, do you raise if he bets small?


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Originally posted by GingerKid
Hi,

How would you play sets, 2 pairs, TPTK, TPGK with fd vs him? Do you raise any street, or just call down, and bet if checked?

If you dont raise some of those categories, do you raise if he bets small?

I don't think we need an especially wide raising range. Top set, maybe middle set.
I would usually flat most top pairs even with the redraws.

Theoretically we should bluff with some one-spade hands here also, but seeing as lead 3-way is often strong we may not have that much FE and can exploitatively raise primarily for value.


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