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KK- river standard call?

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FFRRAANNKKIIEE
Joined: 30.12.2010

Villain appears to be a LAGish reg playing 35/28, with high aggression frequencies on all streets, given that info is river standard check- call? Checking to induce bluff from missed draws obv.?

Thanks

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BTN: $439.46 (439.5 bb)
SB: $170.25 (170.3 bb)
Hero (BB): $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $24.16 (24.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
UTG folds, MP raises to $2.76, 3 folds, Hero raises to $9, MP calls $6.24

Flop: ($18.50) 6 Q Q (2 players)
Hero bets $9, MP calls $9

Turn: ($36.50) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $17.50, MP calls $17.50

River: ($71.50) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $64.50 and is all-in, Hero calls $64.50 and is all-in

Spoiler

Results: $200.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 6 Q Q 9 7
Hero mucked K K and lost (-$100 net)
MP showed 6 6 and won $197.70 ($97.70 net)


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jules97
Joined: 10.06.2012

How many hands? Whats his fold to 3b in these positions?

What range do you think he calls your 3b with?
How does this QQ board hit that range?

What's the equity of your range against his on this flop?
What's the '% of your nut hands' in your range compared to the '% of nut hands' in his range on this flop?

How many combos of Qx does he have?
How many FD's?
How does the turn change his and your range?

Can you bet the flop for value?
Can you be the turn for value?

Do you want some good hands in your x/c ranges against this type of player? (flop/turn/river).
What does he bet or call with if you -
- bet flop, x/c turn?
- x/c flop, x/c turn?
How do you look against htose ranges?

I would think x/c the river is going to lose a lot. And betting the flop and turn not so great either. I don't even think betting the flop accomplishes much. I'd guess that betting flop and exploitably x/f the turn is a pretty good play here, because villain would have to be floating an insane amount and then betting weak made hands (like TT) in this spot to have enough bluffs.


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ETBrooD
Joined: 16.09.2009

In order to call villain must have a massive range of backdoors and he has to turn some weak 1P+FD into a bluff. So against the craziest maniacs you can call, but otherwise it's a pretty clear fold I think.

I also like checking the flop with our whole range. I find that on slightly drawish boards containing very few nuts we can let villain barrel through quite profitably if we have a lot of strong PP, trips, strong draws. This way villain gets punished quite hard by betting too often, hence if he decides to chB we can realize more of our EQ with 2OC's or raw backdoors.


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008

Hi Frankie,

pre flop seems good

Flop I don't mind the cbet with KK, I think it's good. I'd rather check AA since it blocks some of villains check back range. And of course if villain is behind he has almost no outs.

Turn I think we have to check KK, since shoving blank rivers for value doesn't look very good.

As played I agree with the guys, in practice even this villain will have trouble finding enough bluffs to balance all his value range. And if we want to hero call at least make sure we don't block his bluff range, which we do with K :heart: .


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FFRRAANNKKIIEE
Joined: 30.12.2010

Thanks guys, I now realize that I overplayed the hand; I was too blinded with his aggressive stats and talked myself into value betting and bluff catching in the end.


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