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sandraardnas
Joined: 11.01.2012


Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $42.67 (42.7 bb)
BB: $108.78 (108.8 bb)
UTG: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $135.57 (135.6 bb)
CO: $104.65 (104.7 bb)
Hero (BTN): $109.71 (109.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J J
UTG folds, MP raises to $2.50, CO raises to $7.50, Hero calls $7.50, 2 folds, MP calls $5

Flop: ($24) 5 8 2 (3 players)
MP checks, CO bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50, MP folds

Turn: ($41) T (2 players)
CO bets $22.50, Hero folds

Results:

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$41 pot ($1.84 rake)
Final Board: 5 8 2 T
CO mucked and won $39.16 ($23.16 net)
Hero mucked J J and lost (-$16 net)

Hey, his 3b bu v co is 15%, he did 3b against reg 21/17, 64% fold co to buton 3b, 32% co open.
He has quite a fold to 4bet, so I didnt want to stackoff without history.

On flop he bets small, but I dont think its sign of weakness, pot is big already and he can easlily b b shove with small sizings.

On turn I think he wont bet worse for value, why would he? I look like TT+ and couple of nut fd. For same reasons and because he doesnt cb much and it was 3way I think he would stop bluffing very often, so I folded.


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ETBrooD
Joined: 16.09.2009

I think we're making a mistake by calling pre. In my eyes JJ is not even borderline with 100bb stacks, but QQ is certainly close. There was a debate about this just recently in another thread.


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w34z3l
Joined: 03.08.2009

Hey Sandraardnas,

Hand looks ok to me, not sure why you are giving us villains 3b BTN-vs-CO when it's CO-vs-MP though.

@ETBrooD can you elaborate? You are saying we should fold pf?


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ETBrooD
Joined: 16.09.2009

Originally posted by w34z3l
@ETBrooD can you elaborate? You are saying we should fold pf?

Well, we have 3 players to act behind us, one of which supposedly has a tight range, the other one who's not closing the action should have an even tighter range. I don't see any value in defending a hand that only plays well by flopping a set against probably super narrow & slightly unknown ranges. We don't have the greatest implied odds, we do have some reverse implieds, and we have not so great information about the actual ranges that are in play when we get to the flop except for the MP player. Either player should have solid EQ and hence can outdraw us frequentely on any street, or they can just make us fold the best hand quite easily because very very few flops are "safe" regardless of the types of ranges that they play. Our cold calling range appears to be highly vulnerable and semi-face-up. I don't like it at all.

Maybe I'd consider cold 4-betting with dynamics, or specific reads about the ranges and/or player tendencies.


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sandraardnas
Joined: 11.01.2012

Wow, I was pretty sure villain was on buton 3betiing co (and magical I have position), I almost spaaz out my money against 5.3% range that he has in this spot.


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