ATo BU

Hi!

I dont see any reason not to valueraise river again. Even if he has a hand that he likes you beat most of them anyway,not to mention ppl play like this with Ax,Kx or even hands like 33. Also I think they are rarelly ultra strong since they mostly 3bet turn. I would say his most likely hands here are A2, A8 - AQ,KT,KQ . QJ is unlikely due to flop donk, AA,AK,TT are unlikely due to preflop so there is only 22.

Take notes, or better, let NoteTracker/HM2's version of it do it for you. Most common reason (I believe) is that they are going to call anyway so they might as well bet. Their thought process ends there. It's rarely monsters.

But this is 4-handed, and at least the first donk may be perfectly legitimate. The river donk is just weird, but you probably need a note to raise once more.

But here is a bit of a population read: Those that like river donking their weak calldownable hands will often call a raise. Bet-folding doesn't exist for them. Irrational? Yes, but so is donking in general. They think they are doing something rational - otherwise they wouldn't do it. You need to find out why, and this is where the notes come in because it is, after all, individual.

Fact that flop donk is legit(which i agree it is) is even bigger reason to raise river. Hands like Ax,KT are far more likely that QJ,22,AK

@ Yohan - As you say Notes are really important and i am taking Notes always.
@ Dawnfall - I have seen Fishes either doing this with FD. They think donking Turn and river will get me off the hand. And next thing is monster. This is how some Fishes show aggression. As you said first he really had 22.

Thanks for posting the hands gnanananadan. boah your name is difficult to write. ♦

as i've told you when you posted some hands the first time. you have some essential leaks that we need to fix and some of them can be fixed quickly by just a few advices. Hope you keep taking my offer and let me give you some more advices to beat 025/50 in the end and move up t 05/1.

This hand is unlike the other hands quite standard. I don't know what his donk exactly means but i've seen back in the days many players that used to be donking again with just A5 or hands like this.

Flopraise and extracting value as early as possible is fine and mandatory. Delaying is a mistake as you might induce a 3bet. QJ is posible on the Turn but if he's donking out QJ on the Flop he must be as insane that he'll also be capable of donking out with any Ax type of hand.

AFter he didnt 3bet you, you can pretty much exclude hands like 22 AK QJ and that's why it's an easy raise again on the River! You missed 1 BB but apart from that its well played!