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45s 3bet oesd vs donk

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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

partypoker - $1 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 40.87 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
SB: 105.77 BB (VPIP: 25.33, PFR: 16.00, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 310)
Hero (BB): 115.25 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4♦ 5♦

fold, SB raises to 2 BB, Hero raises to 7 BB, SB calls 5 BB

Flop: (14 BB, 2 players) J♥ 6♠ 7♦
SB bets 13.3 BB, Hero calls 13.3 BB

Turn: (40.6 BB, 2 players) A♣
SB bets 38.6 BB, Hero raises to 94.95 BB and is all-in, SB calls 46.87 BB and is all-in

River: (211.54 BB, 2 players) Q♠

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SB shows A♠ J♣ (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks) (Pre 58%, Flop 63%, Turn 82%)
Hero shows 4♦ 5♦ (High Card, Ace) (Pre 42%, Flop 37%, Turn 18%)
Hero wins 9.48 BB
SB wins 209.54 BB

folds 2/6 vs 3bet postflop fold vs cbet 40%. I guess I dont have to 3bet even SC vs him?

Flop so far donk 0/11 times, so no idea here, most likely value. Is it worth turn to shove? With that card he polarizes himself a lot, and I think I need here around 25% FE?


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ETBrooD
Joined: 16.09.2009

Just fold turn, he's clearly not going anywhere. I've made the mistake of calling too wide in this spot, but the truth is that this line with these betsizes screams "Do whatever the hell you wanna do, I'm not going anywhere". He could actually be on tilt, but that doesn't mean he's bluffing. It just means he's over-aggressive.

Think about it, you've 3-bet pre and then called the lead. What made hands can villain overplay? Is he gonna fold them for such a price? Is he bluffing often enough?
Looking at the texture it's very unlikely he's trying to outplay you. Better give him credit and continue only with your top range.


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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

You are right, he would need to fold some total trash, and I am even not sure if he folds KQ,T9


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double2
Joined: 04.11.2008

Hi guys,

pre flop against a villains that doesn't seem to like folding to 3bets I think we could just 3bet for value and call everything else (I'm not folding anything pre flop).

Post flop I agree we should be more conservative and just fold turn. And I think it's actually possible that he plays like this something like AQ/AT.


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