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DS AA pre oop deep

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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

PokerStars - $1 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 346.16 BB (VPIP: 20.89, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 2.33, Hands: 479)
BTN: 207.79 BB (VPIP: 24.14, PFR: 16.52, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 797)
SB: 573.82 BB (VPIP: 79.41, PFR: 38.24, 3Bet Preflop: 17.65, Hands: 70)
Hero (BB): 162.86 BB
UTG: 81.53 BB (VPIP: 15.28, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 72)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 34.18, PFR: 27.22, 3Bet Preflop: 10.81, Hands: 320)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4♥ A♥ Q♣ A♣

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.15 BB, SB calls 1.65 BB, Hero raises to 8.6 BB, BTN calls 6.45 BB, SB calls 6.45 BB

Flop: (25.8 BB, 3 players) 9♣ 7♦ 7♠
SB checks, Hero bets 13.55 BB, BTN raises to 49.5 BB, fold, fold,

2 questions here:

first i 3b this AA even deep and oop because i think their are too strong just to flat call. Btn opens 56% problem could be that he cb raises 25% call 25% and fold 50% his af 3,0 freq 50%
in single raised pots he raise 22% and craises 14% just too give u a feeling of this player. i have no special notes on him that means this is the first hand i have some "problems" with him = have no other hand like this vs him

sb is a big retard pots with air flop turn etc. 4b shove A423r etc.

so Question 1: 3b or not
2: contibet or c/c?
3: after cb just fold or call? i foldet because: speeward is behind and dunno if he has the eggs to do this with him behind


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ETBrooD
Joined: 16.09.2009

Holding AA against such players doesn't actually benefit us too much postflop. Against most troublemakers we're bloating the pot in order to win huge when we connect strong. This hand doesn't connect too often, it's basically a raw EQ hand with nothing else. AA98ds and AAJTss are much much better hands in terms of domination.
Being in the sandwich makes things a lot worse, position is everything in Omaha.

On the upside about 1/3 of the time we flop well/massive by hitting either a FD, Set or Flush.

All being said I think the 3-bet is reasonable but it's important to understand what you want to achieve. Considering that you're getting outplayed on many flops by these players, I think just ch/f that flop seems perfectly fine even though it seems crazy. I have donated for a long time learning this lesson that aggressive stubborn players don't back down easily, or ever, when they perceive you to be weighted towards on or two hand types. Their level of insanity can be quite impressive. Putting in a c-bet when they don't care about you playing back a bit more than that is just as spewy as them not allowing you your fair share of pots on paired boards. Also, sometimes they're just running hot and they actually have it every time. That's Omaha for you.


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

hey etbrood thank u for u answer. could u explain this more:

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wenn möglich auf deutsch hab es nicht ganz verstanden :-) danke

I have donated for a long time learning this lesson that aggressive stubborn players don't back down easily, or ever, when they perceive you to be weighted towards on or two hand types. Their level of insanity can be quite impressive. Putting in a c-bet when they don't care about you playing back a bit more than that is just as spewy as them not allowing you your fair share of pots on paired boards. Also, sometimes they're just running hot and they actually have it every time. That's Omaha for you.


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ETBrooD
Joined: 16.09.2009

I sent you an invitation, it's easier to talk about that in a u2u session ;)


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

as long as you don't only sqz AA preflop it's totally fine. You have the best hand with a lot of nutty components.

Post also looks good. You don't have position and this board connects with their call ranges too often.

Regards,

Skod


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