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50 3b pot 3way turn spot

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Omahasaurus
Joined: 04.01.2012

CO nitty reg 19/13
BB 44/24 passive only 30hands

pre - CO opens 10%, still i think its a mandatory 3bet

flop - standard cbet

turn - got called twice and picked up xtra eq - wraps got there tho, but i think i gotta shove here, right?

I need 22% if they both call, which i should have most of the time, unless one of them had a wrap or hit a gs

on the other hand i doubt i have too much FE, so I would defo be checking behind without the picked up fd.

ok as played?

SB: $367.69 (735.4 bb)
BB: $93.28 (186.6 bb)
UTG: $76.53 (153.1 bb)
MP: $50.50 (101 bb)
CO: $58.77 (117.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7♥ Q♠ A♥ K♠
2 folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $5.25, SB folds, BB calls $4.75, CO calls $3.75

Flop: ($16) 5♦ Q♣ 4♠ (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12, CO calls $12

Turn: ($52) 6♠ (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, HERO?


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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

once both checked the turn i'd open a bottle of champagne in celebration and check behind


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Omahasaurus
Joined: 04.01.2012

Originally posted by Krach-Bumm-Ente
once both checked the turn i'd open a bottle of champagne in celebration and check behind

why? ?(


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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

you're almost never ahead on the turn but there are a lot of river cards which possibly change that.


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

once both checked the turn i'd open a bottle of Milk in celebration and ship it

because i think 3way the will bet their str8 and vs 2pair u have some outs.


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Originally posted by MrTrocks
once both checked the turn i'd open a bottle of Milk in celebration and ship it

because i think 3way the will bet their str8 and vs 2pair u have some outs.

+1

Regards,

Skod


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Krach-Bumm-Ente
Joined: 01.05.2006

Originally posted by MrTrocks
because i think 3way the will bet their str8 and vs 2pair u have some outs.

One of them is passive and even the nitty reg doesn't have to ship his straights here all the time imo.
I don't get why we want to jam vs 2pair, having outs doesn't justify that if we expect to get called every single time. That's saying "we are behind here, never make them fold but we have outs - ship." Doesn't compute, just realize the equity and ship/call hits.


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Skodljivec
Joined: 17.12.2011

Hi,

if both players checked a straight here i would be very very surprsied. On the other hand if we jam we get called by hands like pair+weaker (better?) fd, fd + gutter etc and we generate fe vs hands like weak 2 pair with our hand.

So overall it's the best play to jam

Regards,

Skod


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MrTrocks
Joined: 25.03.2006

like i said yesterday in our group. i´m still on the bet side ott. In a 3bpot people are playing more str8forward so they will be not tricky and check a str8 ott (sure somethimes it will happen but not so often).

Also a set get raised often otf. it seemed more like they have a pair and waiting to hit their 2pair and like skod also said somethimes we generate some fe vs 56 for example.


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