T876ds vs cold 4-bet, Flop Decision

i dont like the 3b. high gap. oop bäh..some stats for us ladies? ♦

as played i would just fold otf. not a full gutter, some backdoors villian pots..bäh

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fold flop imo. the spades are bastards in this case.
3bet is fine.

Originally posted by MrTrocks
some stats for us ladies? ♦

I know with near 100% certainty that with the given SPR villain would pot this flop with all of his made hands and draws. So if my assumption about his range being only AA (or perhaps some non-AA ultra-premiums as well) is true then I think the fact that (almost) none of my draws are to the nuts is irrelevant. Right?

Oh and I also know that villain will never fold to a turn bet with AA. I think he will even call his whole range if a flush comes.

so u want to call to hit ure gutshot? i dont get the point etbrood

lol no, of course not I'm wondering if I hit my draws or the gutshot often enough to make a profitable flop call.

dont think so. guess we have to eq it but i dont think its enough

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It's not about hitting the gutshot but turning any sort of equity which is enough for a turn stackoff.
What you said about the irrelevance of the non-nuttiness is true for the most part, your backdoor diamonds could be dominated however and if he has spades you lose a decent chunk of your outs (which is why I said the spades are bastards). On a rainbow flop (esp. when you have 2 bdfd) I think it would be closer.

Hi,

pre is ok. But postflop is definetly a fold yeah you are too far behind with only a gutter.

Regards,

Skod

Ty guys, guess my eyes were bigger than my stomach